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00:00 < eferuzi> kfx: its black I have not set as I am following the
instructions on the golang.org
00:00 < eferuzi> kfx: is this folder suppose to be in the $GOROOT
00:00 < kfx> it doesn
00:01 < kfx> if $GOBIN is not set, it defaults to $HOME/bin
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00:02 < kimelto> by the way, what's the point with these env var?  I mean,
why not look to the PATH, etc?
00:05 < KirkMcDonald> kimelto: The compiler is always cross-compiling, in
effect.
00:05 < eferuzi> i have created the bin folder and export GOBIN to the
folder and also updated the $PATH to also point to the $GOBIN and its compiling
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00:06 < kimelto> KirkMcDonald: what do you mean?
00:06 < KirkMcDonald> kimelto: This means you have to explicitly tell it
which OS and architecture to compile for.
00:07 < kimelto> oh I see
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00:20 < exch> prepare to be dazzled and horrified all at the same time!
http://github.com/jteeuwen/go-templates
00:21 < exch> disclaimer: I take no responsibility for loss of sanity after
observing what is behind that link.
00:22 < poe> exch oh
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00:27 < hipe> uriel, earlier you mentioned "sam -d" . i'm curious what is
that ? is it a sed/awk-like utility?
00:29 < hipe> timmcd: ping
00:29 * sladegen bets it's gui version of ed.
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00:37 < bogen> exch: heh....  I guess go-templates are might not be as bad
as go "macros" : golang-ctfe - Project Hosting on Google Code
<http://code.google.com/p/golang-ctfe/>
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00:40 < exch> hehe macro's are probably a bit more versatile than templates.
00:40 < exch> certainly it's current state (templates that is) :p
00:43 < hipe> this is the most ...  random question ...  not really on
topic: do any of you know of languages in which you can do something like build
case statements programmatcially?
00:44 < hipe> the equivalent can certainly be achieved with a clever use of
lists, function pointers, procs, whatever but i'm just curious
00:45 < exch> I suppose anything with an eval() function should be able to
do that
00:45 < hipe> exch: yeah ..  i actually don't need it for anything at the
moment, but something i was doing reminded me of something like that.  ok thanks
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01:05 < mythz> you can use c# and reflection.emit or expression trees
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01:06 < KirkMcDonald> With regards to macros, I would prefer AST macros to
textual macros.
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01:08 < Gracenotes> Haskell has those.  they're pretty much as flexible as
possible (except, you do need special brackets to set them off there)
01:09 < KirkMcDonald> They were proposed for D, but were never implemented.
01:10 < Gracenotes> not to say they're easy to use, by merit of ASTs being
idiosyncratic representations
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01:28 < alexsuraci> hmmm, types are bein' tricky.
01:29 < Gracenotes> how so?
01:29 < alexsuraci> i'll paste, sec.  kind of hard to explain.
01:30 < alexsuraci> Gracenotes: http://gopaste.org/view/qoHoM See line 16.
01:30 < alexsuraci> Parser is defined below, in the parsec package, as "func
(Vessel) (Output, bool)"
01:31 < alexsuraci> however, defining call as "func call(in Vessel) ..."
apparently won't fit that type if I try to pass it to an argument to something in
parsec that expects a Parser
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01:31 < alexsuraci> since Any uses reflection and casts its arguments as
Parsers
01:32 < alexsuraci> so, I get an error "interface is func(parsec.Vessel)
(parsec.Output, bool), not parsec.Parser"
01:32 < Gracenotes> so what you have there does compile, right?
01:32 < alexsuraci> yeah
01:32 < alexsuraci> works fine
01:33 < alexsuraci> unless I change call to be a regular func ...
definition, where the Parser type isn't explicitly defined
01:33 < Gracenotes> hm.  if you make it a declaration, but explicitly
convert it to a Parser with Parser(call), does that work?
01:34 < alexsuraci> so essentially if I have "type B A", Go won't know that
A conforms to B.
01:34 < alexsuraci> Probably, sec
01:34 < alexsuraci> yes, that works
01:34 < alexsuraci> rather unsightly though
01:35 < Gracenotes> they are assignment compatible
01:35 < uriel> hipe: for sam see: http://sam.cat-v.org
01:35 < Gracenotes> (as you can see, by merit of the fact that the pasted
version works)
01:35 < hipe> uriel: thanks
01:35 < alexsuraci> yeah
01:35 < uriel> hipe: as for how sam -d works, see
http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/sam_lang_tutorial/
01:35 < hipe> fantastic.  thanks
01:35 < Gracenotes> anyway, whether it's implicit or explicit is important
to the typechecker: it does do certain things in certain cases
01:35 < alexsuraci> and I suppose it makes sense from the perspective of not
expecting "foo" to be B in "type B string"
01:36 < alexsuraci> otherwise you could add methods willy nilly
01:36 < alexsuraci> (and by "foo" I mean the string "foo")
01:36 < Gracenotes> so assignment essentially adds an implicit cast
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01:36 < Gracenotes> and an explicit cast is, well, a cast.  But no cast,
explicit or implicit, Go might not be happy with
01:36 < alexsuraci> yep.  unfortunately that's sort of ugly to do with
functions
01:37 < alexsuraci> since you have to change it to a var decl
01:37 < uriel> hipe: also, recommended reading is rob's paper on structural
regexps: http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/structural_regexps/
01:37 < sladegen> hipe:
http://schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-10.html#%_sec_7.3 not
sure if tree of if's is equivalent to case statements.
01:37 < Gracenotes> another example of an implicit cast is having a function
with Parser as a parameter, and sending call to it
01:37 < Gracenotes> call in its unwrapped form
01:37 < hipe> oh boy i've got my reading cut out for me!  thanks uriel /
sladegen
01:38 < alexsuraci> Gracenotes: yep, it only fails here because it uses
reflection and casts on an interface, which is more ambiguous
01:38 < alexsuraci> other functions work fine
01:39 < Gracenotes> hmm.  not too familiar with reflection.  whatever works
:)
01:39 < alexsuraci> Gracenotes: it uses it because Any(...) takes a variable
number of arguments
01:39 < alexsuraci> which you have to reflect on to use
01:40 < alexsuraci> http://gopaste.org/view/qoHoM#LC139 there's the line at
fault
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01:41 < Gracenotes> so with a naked declaration, there's no compile error,
but a runtime one?
01:41 < alexsuraci> Gracenotes: yep
01:42 < Gracenotes> hm.  All parses them simultaneously?
01:42 < Gracenotes> i.e.  intersection
01:43 < alexsuraci> nah, just parses them in order, essentially what
parsec's monad does
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01:45 < Gracenotes> anyway, parsec is not one for intersection..
backtracking is more the other of the day (with Try).
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01:46 < Gracenotes> ReadP does try alternatives simultaneously, not sure how
the parser primitives differ though
01:47 < Gracenotes> *s/other/order/, incidentally
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02:15 < goplexian> Ok, not sure if this is more of an algorithm question or
a go question, but how would you compare the 3rd digit in a six digit number with
the 3rd digit in another six digit number for lets say one thousand numbers?
02:16 < exch> argh.  why do make files suck so much?  -.-
02:16 < exch> I hates em with every fiber of my being
02:17 < goplexian> for a string I know what I would do, but having trouble
thinking of a way to do this in go with numbers
02:18 < anticw> make files are wonderful
02:18 < anticw> goplexian: convert it to a string?
02:18 < s_mosher> goplexian, integers?  divide by 100, mod 10
02:18 < goplexian> yeah other than that I mean
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02:19 < s_mosher> er wait
02:19 < s_mosher> you probably mean the other 3rd digit
02:19 < goplexian> that may work
02:19 < s_mosher> divide by 1000 instead
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02:23 < goplexian> thats the answer, thanks s_mosher, I just started working
on euler #4 and need to find the largest palindrome number which is the product of
two 3 digit numbers
02:24 < goplexian> so the largest will be a six digit number, so I needed a
way to compare the first digit to the last, the second to the fifth, etc etc,
looking for a number like 987789
02:26 < s_mosher> ah right
02:26 < goplexian> so if x / 100000 % 10 == x / 1 % 10 then I should have a
match
02:26 < goplexian> for the first and sixth digit
02:27 < goplexian> and string conversions for that would just be silly
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02:37 < ni|> hello!
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02:47 < jessta> `/q ned
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02:50 < ni|> @eval 22|2
02:50 < rndbot> 22
02:50 < ni|> @help
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03:14 < Ibw> No more bytes.Copy
03:18 < Whtiger> Doesn't it kinda do the same thing Add does?
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03:35 < tyr42> Is there a way to get a float from stdin?
03:35 < tyr42> I found strconv, but it doesn't work on []byte
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03:38 < tyr42> hello?
03:38 < Whtiger> will you accept cheating?
03:39 < Whtiger> wait, what's wrong with Atof
03:39 < Whtiger> convert []byte to string
03:39 < clip9> binary.Read could also work
03:39 < tyr42> I could use it on a string, but I can only get a slice of
bytes
03:40 < tyr42> how do I convert it?
03:40 < tyr42> I tried buf.String()
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03:40 < tor7> typ42: string(buf)
03:40 < tyr42> ok
03:40 < clip9> strconv.Atof(string(buf))
03:41 < clip9> could also do the trick.
03:42 < tyr42> "cannot convert buf (type [512]uint8) to type string"
03:43 < anon476> what is this channel about
03:43 < tor7> that's not a slice, that's an array
03:43 < tyr42> your right
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03:43 < tor7> you need to take a slice of the array before you can convert
it to a string
03:45 < tyr42> and now it works
03:45 < tyr42> mostly
03:47 < Zeffrin> anon476: Go programming language, check out the link in the
topic
03:48 < Whtiger> hilake: it's about love
03:49 < alexsuraci> wish the %#v outut was prettier.
03:49 < alexsuraci> very difficult to read structs and things like syntax
strees
03:49 < Zeffrin> prettier in which way?
03:49 < alexsuraci> whitespace, mainly
03:49 < alexsuraci> maybe some other variant of %v for "prettiness" ;)
03:50 < Ibw> How to pass maps as function arguments?  What's the syntax?
03:51 < clip9> func mf(m map[string]string)?
03:51 < Ibw> thanks
03:51 < Ibw> clip9: I was missing the second string
03:51 < clip9> heh.  ok.
03:52 < tor7> %+v is prettier
03:54 < alexsuraci> tor7: but that excludes too much
03:54 < hilake> cool
03:54 < Zeffrin> it only excludes the type?
03:54 < tor7> a linebroken and indented version of %#v would indeed be
awesome
03:55 < alexsuraci> Zeffrin: yes.  too much.
03:55 < alexsuraci> http://gopaste.org/view/k6yi3
03:55 < Zeffrin> though Im lookin at the output in #go-run atm and see %#v
put some funny chars in there :\
03:55 < alexsuraci> gofmt saves the day, granted with a lot of manual effort
03:55 * alexsuraci is toying with a little pseudo-regexp parser with his parsec
lib
03:56 < alexsuraci> that is `a((b)?ccc)*`
03:57 < Zeffrin> wow, hardcore thunder just started up over here, i hope my
phone system goes down >:)
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04:05 < Necrogami> o/
04:05 < Necrogami> how goes everyone!
04:05 < alexsuraci> \o
04:05 < hilake> on two feet
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04:11 < goplexian> wheels for some though...
04:12 < hilake> true
04:13 < peter-k> what is the topic of this room ?
04:13 < hilake> ?
04:14 < peter-k> what is this room for ?
04:14 < peter-k> the name is "go nuts"
04:14 < Whtiger> peter-k: we, love, nuts.
04:15 < hilake> no idea
04:15 < hilake> im a nut
04:15 < Whtiger> hilake: peter-k: read the topic?
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04:15 < peter-k> it's a place let people abreact?
04:16 < peter-k> hi Whtiger
04:16 < Whtiger> peter-k: hello.
04:16 < peter-k> can't open the website listed in the room
04:17 < Whtiger> peter-k: Go is a programming language.
04:18 < peter-k> oh :)
04:18 < peter-k> you guys are computer experts
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04:19 < peter-k> :D
04:19 < Whtiger> peter-k: well, this is a help channel, there's a few of us
which are "experts" and the rest ask questions >_>
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04:20 < Whtiger> (not everyone that can program are computer experts.)
04:20 < peter-k> :)
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04:22 < Necrogami> Anyone know if somoene is working on a SOAP
Server/client?
04:22 < peter-k> if i wan to unblock the blocked websites such as youtub
.facebook etc,which software i can use ?
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04:22 < Necrogami> peter-k: try #help
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04:22 < Whtiger> peter-k: try net.Dial()
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04:24 < peter-k> thank you Necrogami Whtiger
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04:26 < peter-k> what is "#help" Necrogami?
04:26 < Necrogami> Freenode's help channel
04:26 < Whtiger> peter-k: it's either a twitter hashtag or an IRC channel.
04:28 < hilake> use https://
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04:31 < goplexian> should Go be capitalized when talking about it, or is the
proper name simply 'go'
04:32 < Whtiger> pretty sure it's Go.
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04:36 < goplexian> thx
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04:39 < goplexian> Here is Euler Project exercise 4 in Go if anyone cares,
http://www.goplexian.com/2009/11/project-euler-problem-4.html
04:40 < goplexian> if anyone can teach me a better way to do it in Go,
comments or suggestions are always welcome
04:42 < goplexian> hmm int64 isnt needed, forgot to change that
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05:00 < path[l]> the go net test dial google is failing here
05:00 < anticw> fw/dns
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05:06 < path[l]> sorry?
05:06 < Whtiger> something about firewall or dns.
05:09 < adiabatic> same here, I got the "do you want the system firewall to
let this program out?" dialog
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05:10 < OwlHuntr_> hey
05:11 < OwlHuntr_> anyone know how to unzip .zip archives?
05:11 < path[l]> no I can ping www.google.com
05:11 < Whtiger> My dns doesn't properly resolve.
05:11 < path[l]> it cant be either of those
05:11 < Whtiger> (with go)
05:11 < hilake> with winzip
05:11 < hilake> or peazip
05:11 < OwlHuntr_> no, using code in Go
05:11 < Whtiger> hilake: I'm assuming he means with Go.
05:11 < Whtiger> hilake: since this is a channel about Go.
05:12 < OwlHuntr_> cause i've been trying tiwth compress/flate
05:12 < OwlHuntr_> i just can't find enough docs
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05:13 < Whtiger> OwlHuntr_: you might not be able to yet >_>
05:13 < OwlHuntr_> i'm currently playing around with some code i found in
the tests for zlib in the src
05:13 < OwlHuntr_> so that should work?
05:13 < adiabatic> I thought zlib was for bzip, not zip zip
05:13 < Whtiger> zlib and gzip are there
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05:14 < OwlHuntr_> yea, that's what i thought, but i still run into another
problem where unzipping directories would be crazy
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05:18 < path[l]> it still fails on dial tcp
05:18 < path[l]> Im running on mac os
05:18 < OwlHuntr_> what are you trying to do?
05:18 < OwlHuntr_> i've gotten some nice code that can download shit
05:19 < anticw> Whtiger: others have reported issues, there might be some
fragility in the resolver code
05:20 < path[l]> Im just trying to run the tests
05:20 < path[l]> to build go
05:20 < Whtiger> path[l]: skip the net tests then.
05:20 < path[l]> ah
05:21 < Whtiger> anticw: yeah, that's what I was thinking.
05:21 < path[l]> Im running it via ./all.bash.  Im not sure what runs after
this, where can I skip just those tests?
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05:24 < path[l]> oh I found a thread explaining the problem
05:24 < path[l]>
http://groups.google.com/group/golang-nuts/browse_thread/thread/b57fd5b636453813/94577779631e3ce7?lnk=raot
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05:26 < path[l]> hmm my firewall is off
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05:30 < path[l]> ok how can I skip just those tests please?
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05:30 < anticw> rename/remove the *_test.go files
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05:37 < OwlHuntr_> promising project?  http://github.com/OwlHuntr/GoGems/
05:38 < path[l]> oh
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05:38 < path[l]> thanks anticw
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05:42 < path[l]> I only see .go files, no test.go
05:44 < anticw> which test fails?
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05:52 < path[l]> the net tests
05:52 < path[l]> --- FAIL: http.TestClient
05:52 < path[l]> Get http://www.google.com/robots.txt: dial tcp
www.google.com:http: lookup www.google.com.  on 202.138.96.2:53: no answer from
server
05:52 < path[l]> --- FAIL: http.TestRedirect
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06:14 < alexsuraci> path[l]: that test isn't anything to worry about,
usually the result of a firewall or something
06:14 < alexsuraci> i believe you can just do ./make.bash to skip the tests
06:14 < path[l]> ah
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06:21 < path[l]> thanks
06:21 < path[l]> its done
06:21 < alexsuraci> np
06:22 < gisikw> Out of curiosity, does Go have a socket library as of yet,
or is that something to leave to C callouts?
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06:24 < alexsuraci> have you checked golang.org/pkg?
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06:24 < alexsuraci> (no idea, just guessing)
06:24 < gisikw> alexsuraci, Ahhhh, that was the one page I didn't hit.
Danke
06:24 < gisikw> w00t.  All there.
06:25 < alexsuraci> yep, surprising amount of stuff ;P
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07:23 < Zeffrin> surprised theres no smtp pkg yet
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07:28 < s_mosher> smtp :(
07:28 < s_mosher> I used to manage hosting servers
07:29 < s_mosher> email can die
07:29 < Zeffrin> lol
07:29 < Zeffrin> yeah f' smtp servers
07:29 < Zeffrin> client shouldn't be too hard
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07:33 < jessta> it's a terrible thing that terrible technology may never die
07:33 < jessta> I imagine we'll be stuck with email for the next 1000 years
07:36 < Gracenotes> there's nothing much wrong with email, is there?
07:36 < Gracenotes> then again I've never run email servers..  but the
problems encountered there seem intrinsic to any sort of email-like communication
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07:37 < s_mosher> Gracenotes, the protocol design did not take into the fact
that deep down humans are douchebags on average
07:39 < s_mosher> *into account
07:39 < Gracenotes> the design of the protocols makes it difficult to filter
out spam?
07:39 < Gracenotes> like, spoofing headers?
07:41 < s_mosher> it makes it difficult to identify spammers
07:41 < sqweek> hahaha, that is a great quote
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07:42 < Gracenotes> s_mosher: what are some changes to the protocol that
might make it easier?
07:43 < s_mosher> starting over :)
07:43 < Gracenotes> well.  you have to start somewhere, you know :)
07:43 < Gracenotes> but, mmm, I don't see very many protocols announced
nowadays, though.
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07:44 < AndrewBC_> There might be some changes to the protocol that could
help reduce spoofing of headers, like maybe redundant messages sent via different
routes
07:44 < s_mosher> smtp auth helps, but you can't really verify it on the
receiving end.  the decentralized nature of the whole thing is problematic.
07:44 < AndrewBC_> But I think a large part of it is in the nature of the
internet, a decentralized graph wherein everything must go through many nodes
07:44 < s_mosher> actually a lot has been done to make spamming difficult,
and filtering easier
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07:45 < AndrewBC_> I can see that you're probably going to say everything I
am, so I'll go back to lurking
07:45 < Gracenotes> that's interesting
07:45 < k0fein> hello all, I'd like to ask you - since it's not in FAQ
07:45 < k0fein> s
07:45 < k0fein> how it is with Go and ORACLE ?
07:45 < s_mosher> AndrewBC_, go ahead if you like
07:46 < k0fein> i mean the database access support
07:46 < AndrewBC_> No, I didn't mean that as a sleight at all, I'm just lazy
:)
07:46 < k0fein> something like OCI/OCCI for Go
07:46 < AndrewBC_> and you're pretty much saying the same thing I am, so
might as well kick my feet up.  :)
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07:46 < s_mosher> AndrewBC_, haha, so am I, I was hoping you'd take over :P
07:47 < jessta> k0fein: I don't think there is anything yet
07:47 < Gracenotes> it must not be so fun to talk about if you have to deal
with it day in/day out >_>
07:47 < k0fein> jessta: do you have any info related to this topic ? (for
example plans to have one?)
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07:48 < uriel> gisikw: to search for stuff if you don't know where it is,
you can use http://go-lang.cat-v.org/go-search
07:48 < jessta> k0fein: Someone will probably make one in the future
07:48 < s_mosher> Gracenotes, for all that's wrong with the protocol, my
true hate is qmail.
07:48 < gisikw> uriel, neat, thanks!
07:48 < jessta> k0fein: there are currently mysql,sqlite and postgresql
stuff
07:49 < Gracenotes> s_mosher: oh, really
07:49 < k0fein> jessta: well that's nice, but when I need to access the
oracle then it's not much of a help :-)
07:50 < k0fein> jessta: but thanks for the info anyway
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07:51 < k0fein> ok guys, I've got the answer I've been looking for, bye
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07:52 < s_mosher> Gracenotes, it's my #1 rant.  I'll spare the channel the
details, but it's pretty badly broken and bundled with certain hosting platform
software.
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07:52 < Gracenotes> plus, it's not gay enough
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07:53 < s_mosher> not gay enough?
07:54 < Gracenotes> well, as sendmail.  never mind <_<
07:55 < s_mosher> heh, m4 nonsense (and that's if you're lucky)
07:55 < gisikw> Whoohoo!  I just discovered bufio
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07:56 < uriel> sendmail.cf for the win!
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07:56 < uriel> fuck go, we should all program in sendmail.cf!
07:56 < s_mosher> uriel, turing-complete line noise that puts perl to shame
07:57 < uriel> s_mosher: oh, you ignorant fool!  sendmail.cf is the most
exquisite, refined, powerful and elegant language ever created by man!
07:57 < s_mosher> that's entirely possible, but who would know?
07:58 < s_mosher> actually it's not much
07:58 < s_mosher> I don't mind it though
07:58 < uriel> hehehe
07:59 < uriel> actually, back when I still was using sendmail (seems like a
thousand years ago now...) I prefered hacking on sendmail.cf than on the m4..
07:59 < uriel> mostly because when I messed up with m4, I couldn't
understand the output file at all
07:59 < s_mosher> yeah, it doesn't help that m4 has....  quirks
07:59 < uriel> at least when changing sendmail.cf, you needed a vague idea
of what the hell you were changing
08:00 < uriel> s_mosher: I really wonder what was going through dmr and
bwk's heads when they created it :))
08:00 < uriel> (as in what kinds of drugs)
08:00 < s_mosher> oh wow, I haven't written anything in m4 since like 1999
08:02 < s_mosher> my recent dealings with sendmail have been through .cf or
handy configurators
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08:03 < s_mosher> I think they probably wanted to make sure every unix admin
knew how to write code, and read other people's code
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08:08 < uriel> s_mosher: my recent dealings with sendmail were in like 1999
;)
08:08 < uriel> s_mosher: I don't think m4 was designed for unix admins, I
guess that is part of the problem
08:09 < s_mosher> I was thinking cf
08:09 < s_mosher> but yeah
08:09 < s_mosher> same goes
08:10 < uriel> heheh
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09:09 < gpuserver> Wow.  I'm impressed.  Who would have thought that the
first step to perfecting object oriented programming is to eliminate classes and
inheritance.  Cool!
09:10 < gpuserver> I have a question: Is there a way to invoke javascript
programmatically from Go?
09:11 < gisikw> gpuserver, aw, come on, that's not an entirely new idea
09:11 < gpuserver> I have another question: Is there a package for
implementing a simple GUI?
09:11 < gisikw> You've got the Rubyists with the whole duck-typing and
module thing
09:13 < gpuserver> Sure, python too.  But in any case, Ruby doesn't get rid
of classes, although I would agree that it makes it possible to do OOP without
classes.
09:14 < gpuserver> What I like about Go is the absense of classes.  Since if
you can do OOP better with interfaces, classes become redundant, which violates
the idea of being orthagonal.
09:15 < gisikw> I'll drink to that!
09:15 < gpuserver> Go manages to get the duck-typing thing down with perfect
type-safety.  Anyway, I think it is very nice.
09:16 < gpuserver> :)
09:16 < elmar> did anybody get spacewar running?
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09:17 < uriel> gpuserver: for gui bindings see
http://go-lang.cat-v.org/library-bindings
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09:18 < uriel> I don't think anyone has added js bindings, but there are lua
bindings
09:20 < gpuserver> I'm not sure if lua helps.  I want to write a simple
browser based game, and I need to be able to dynamically change content
programatically without reloading the page.
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09:21 < adiabatic> can't you write the server in Go, and then send the JS to
the browser to have it run that?
09:22 < uriel> gpuserver: uhu?  use json then!
09:23 < gpuserver> Sure, but since the point of this is to learn Go, I'd
like to implement the login in Go.
09:23 < adiabatic> if you want to dynamically change stuff without a full
reload, look into XHR and jquery or dojo or mochikit or...
09:23 < gpuserver> login => logic
09:23 < gpuserver> sorry about typo
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09:23 < uriel> gpuserver: I still have no clue what you are asking for
09:24 < uriel> if you want to generate js from go, what stops you?  if you
want to communicate with js running on a browser, json is the obvious and only
sane option
09:24 < adiabatic> gpuserver: if you want to change stuff without reloading
the page, you won't be able to do it without Javascript and XHR
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09:24 < adiabatic> Don't worry, your game will still have lots of Go code,
too!  ;)
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09:26 < gpuserver> Okay, so specifically, I'd like Go code to be able to
specify that I want to replace the content of a tag with id='foo' with "hello
world".  Where the data and the desired id are determined to Go code.
09:27 < gpuserver> So I'm happy to write some js
09:28 < gpuserver> Specifically, I'm happy to write a js function that takes
an id and a string and sets the content of the specified tag.  But I want to
invoke that function from Go.
09:30 < uriel> do you understand how javascript and web browsers work?
09:30 < gpuserver> uriel: Ah, I think you answered my question!  The "json"
package.
09:30 < gpuserver> yes
09:30 < uriel> yes, just like you would do in any other language in the
universe
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09:39 < gisikw> Hmm, is there any way to join goroutines?
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09:40 < gisikw> I'm seeing examples of setting up completion channels, but
it'd be really convenient to just join up like pthreads
09:43 < uriel> gisikw: what is wrong with using channels for
synchronization?
09:44 < uriel> it is infinitely better than anything pthreads ever had
09:44 < gisikw> uriel, Oh, nothing wrong with that.  Just a bit of extra
typing for extremely simple cases
09:44 < anticw> it's less typing
09:44 < uriel> and less headaches
09:45 < gisikw> well, I'm talking _really_ simple cases
09:45 < gisikw> go { listening server }
09:45 < gisikw> / more procedural stuff
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09:45 < gisikw> In cases like that, pthreads are dead simple.
09:45 < anticw> <-x
09:51 < uriel> pthreads are *never* simple
09:51 < uriel> and what anticw said, it is hard to get simpler than <-x
09:51 < gisikw> hehe, fair enough.
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11:35 < JPascal> How I can user '\s' in regexp ? Right now i took error:
unknown escape sequence: s
11:35 < hipe> JPascal: did you try \\s ?
11:35 < JPascal> *use
11:35 < JPascal> no, not help
11:36 < JPascal> i try it
11:36 < hipe> in other languages some times i have to use several (four or
five!) backslashes to properly escape things
11:36 < hipe> JPascal: sorry - i'm tired, do you want /\s/ to represent a
space character?  then i don't know!  sorry
11:37 < JPascal> Unexpected error compiling "\\s+": illegal backslash escape
11:37 < hipe> you may be stuck using / +/ then!
11:38 < exch> you can prevent the double quoting by using `fooo` as the
string..  like `\s+`
11:38 < exch> I don't think the current regex has support for \s though
11:38 < exch> or \w or \b for that matter
11:38 < JPascal> hm...
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11:51 < exch> JPascal: if you really need those in yuor regexp, you can try
out the PCRE bindings here: http://github.com/jteeuwen/go-pkg-pcre They are not
perfect, but do support everything.
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11:56 < falconair> is there an ubuntu package for go yet?  i'd like to be
able to use "apt-get go" rather than doing a manual install
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12:27 < Gracenotes> as for Ubuntu packages.  setting up the binaries and
libraries would be easy, but..  where would you put them?  :)
12:27 < Gracenotes> there does need to be *some* kind of semblance of a
flexible packaging system
12:34 < Zeffrin> you dont just need the stuff from $GOBIN once its compiled?
12:35 < JBeshir> Right.
12:36 < Zeffrin> i see theres the libs actually but it couldn't be setup to
install to /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/lib ? though the env vars might be a
problem
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12:53 < dagle> Hmmm.  How does the ...  (for varargs) work?
12:53 < dagle> Want the documentation and can't find it.  :/
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13:23 < alc> > for p, c := range "hello, 世界" { fmt.Printf("%d %c\n", p,
c) }
13:23 < rndbot> <Error: invalid identifier character 0x3000, syntax error
near  >
13:24 < alc> > for p, c := range "hello" { fmt.Printf("%d %c\n", p, c) }
13:24 < rndbot> <Error: invalid identifier character 0x3000, syntax error
near  >
13:25 < alc> > for p, c := range "hello, 世界" { fmt.Printf("%d %c\n", p,
c) }
13:25 < rndbot> 0 h 1 e 2 l 3 l 4 o 5 , 6 7 世 10 界
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13:34 < exch> http://www.my-wishlist.nl/2009/11/waste-of-time
13:34 < exch> ^ totally random
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13:41 < mpl> exch: meh, this makes it look like fucking lolspeak
13:42 < exch> hehe I think that was the point of the rather sarcastic
article ;)
13:42 < exch> I have to agree though that English needs a lot of work before
it can be considered a viable global language.  If at all
13:43 < vegai> even though it already is?  :P
13:43 < exch> it's bene forced onto everyone :p Not because it's such a
great language
13:43 < exch> for asian language speakers it's an absolutely abysmal
language.
13:44 < exch> very difficult to learn
13:44 < vegai> I like English (it's my second language), but I agree it may
be difficult to learn in the bad way
13:44 < vegai> that is, by studying
13:45 < exch> Personally I have no problem with English as i've been
reading/writing/speaking it since I was a little kid, but as a native Dutch
speaker, English isn't a very big leap.  Many others will have different opinions
about that :)
13:46 < mpl> exch: but then wouldn't any european language be difficult for
asian language speakers?
13:46 < exch> yup
13:46 < vegai> Finnish was my first, and it's in a different family
13:46 < exch> hence why any real global language should not have european
roots
13:46 < vegai> it's more (like all things?) about motivation
13:46 < exch> or just asian roots for that matter
13:47 < mpl> exch: are you saying it should be a new language?  or do you
have an existing one in mind?
13:47 < exch> finnish is in a league of it's own :D I've tried understnding
it, but it is just mind bogglingly insane
13:48 < exch> lojban is a candidate.  It takes hints from all major roots on
the planet, but does it in a way to make it completely new.  Which makes it
equally difficult for everyone to learn
13:48 < vegai> lojban sounded strangely chinese and russian to me, though
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13:49 < exch> from our perspective, yes a bit.  It borrows some aspects from
chinese and russian, but also from arabic and european languages
13:49 < vegai> (as if I've heard any native speaker talk in lojban :)
13:49 < exch> hehe
13:49 < exch> true
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13:49 < exch> lojban has the added bonus of being culturally neutral.  Which
imho, is very important for a language that has tobe used by everyone.
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13:50 < exch> *to be
13:50 < exch> Maybe we should all just learn to speak Go :p
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14:32 < dagle> mi tavla ze lojban
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14:33 < dagle> Or something.  Have forgotten a lot.
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15:14 < jessta> exch: the problem with lojban is that nobody speaks it.
15:15 < exch> hehe true.  that's a bit of a self-enforcing problem
unfortunately
15:16 < jessta> self-enforcing?
15:16 < exch> nobody speaks it.  And nobody will speak it because nobody
else does.
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15:17 < exch> The only way to solve something like that is for governments
to say "alrighty kids, from now on you all learn language X in school!"
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15:18 < exch> I doubt that'll ever happen though.  Specially with lojban.
15:23 < uriel> yay for trolls in the mailing list!
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15:23 < uriel> hey, can't they come up with something else to complain
about?  like that Gordon is scary to little children or something?
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15:26 < Zaba> uriel, what did they complain about?
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15:26 * ukl <3 Gordon
15:27 < uriel> Zaba: they complained because Go *includes* implementations
of MD5, SHA-1 and AES-256!
15:28 * uriel <3 Glenda ;P
15:28 < Zaba> uriel, omfgbloat!!111
15:29 < uriel> apparently they are 'not secure', and it is evil for a
language to include implementations of such evil things!
15:29 < exch> -.-
15:29 < Zeffrin> wonder if someone has a moment to tell me, am I thinking
the right way about these data structures?
15:29 < Zeffrin> http://gopaste.org/view/private:J5hb0
15:29 < exch> can someone remind them that nothing is truly secure?
15:30 < uriel> hey, go allows overwriting files!  that is dangerous!
somebody complain fast!
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15:31 < uriel> alexsuraci: do you seriously use :parameters for gopaste?
*UGH*
15:31 < uriel> for the love of sanity, please replace : with /
15:32 < exch> mod_rewrite <3
15:32 < uriel> exch: maybe somebody should warn the guy that his computer is
not secure, and he should unplug it, put it on a steel safe, destroy the key and
then bury the whole thing under 25m of concrete
15:32 < uriel> exch: *yickes*!
15:35 < exch> Zeffrin: the data structure looks ok to me.  To make it a lil
more consistent tiwht the standard API, I would turn those error codes into
os.Error instances though
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15:35 < exch> and have send return one of those if things go trippy
15:35 * Zeffrin nods, i'd just noticed that and remembered teh go way of things
15:36 < Zeffrin> thanks for taking the time to look for me though hey, not
feeling confident with go :/
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15:36 < Zeffrin> im a bit confused about what in there is going to be stored
by referenced or not
15:36 < exch> Not that i'm an authority on the subject :p
15:37 < exch> anything that is not a pointer will be a value really
15:37 < Zeffrin> how does that work with the []byte where size is not set?
15:38 < Zeffrin> and []somestructhere
15:38 < exch> []byte is a slice..  slices and maps are always references to
underlying data structures
15:38 < Zeffrin> ok awesome
15:38 < tor7> the only "magic" that happens with referencing is with slices,
and if you just think about slices as special pointers with a built in length
there's nothing to be scared of :)
15:38 < exch> indeed
15:39 < tor7> and go slices are the best thing since sliced bread!  (sorry)
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15:40 < Zeffrin> > var hrm []int; hrm[0] = 1
15:40 < rndbot> <no output>
15:40 < Zeffrin> > var hrm []int; hrm[100] = 1
15:40 < rndbot> <no output>
15:41 < tor7> that'll crash with a segfault (or out of range)
15:41 < Zeffrin> > var hrm []int; hrm[100] = 1; fmt.Printf("%d",
hrm[100])
15:41 < rndbot> <no output>
15:41 < Zeffrin> k
15:41 < exch> rndbot doesn't show the segfault
15:41 < tor7> var hrm []int; hrm = make([]int, 3); fmt.Printf("%v\n", hrm);
15:42 < Zeffrin> > var hrm []int; hrm = make([]int, 10); hrm[9] = 1;
fmt.printf("%#v", hrm);
15:42 < rndbot> <Error: cannot refer to fmt.printf, undefined:
fmt.printf>
15:42 < Zeffrin> > var hrm []int; hrm = make([]int, 10); hrm[9] = 1;
fmt.Printf("%#v", hrm);
15:42 < rndbot> []int{0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1}
15:42 < Zeffrin> kk sweet
15:42 < tor7> you still need to allocate the memory the slice points to with
make()
15:42 < Zeffrin> thanks guys, ive read the stuff on golang.org but for
whatever reason it doesn't stick from just reading
15:42 < exch> or the shorter form: hrm := make([]int, 10);
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15:45 < vegai> 17:19 <exch> I doubt that'll ever happen though.
Specially with lojban.
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15:46 < vegai> happens all the time, actually.  Not with lojban, though
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15:59 < alexsuraci> uriel: when you write gopaste feel free to make your own
decisions.  i'll fix the quirks when I have the time/will.
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16:06 < Makdaam> hello
16:06 < exch> lo
16:07 < Zeffrin> to make this send function goroutine friendly can/should I
have an option which takes a channel as an input param for writing out result?
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16:08 < exch> probably.  Either that, or provide some mechanism to notify
the caller of it's completion.  Which will likely also be a channel
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16:14 < sktrdie> go for windows?
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16:14 < exch> there are some ports around.
http://go-lang.cat-v.org/os-ports
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16:25 < sktrdie> exch: wow, catv likes go?
16:26 < exch> apparently :p
16:26 < exch> ask uriel about that
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16:26 < sktrdie> whos he?
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16:27 < exch> the one who maintains the go pages on cat-v
16:27 < sktrdie> oh damn
16:27 < sktrdie> he's retarted
16:27 < exch> he's in here, you know that right?  :p
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16:41 < mikedee> Does anyone know what iota means?  It is used in enums.
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16:43 < jordyd> mikedee: It's a variable that is reset to 0 everytime you
use const.
16:43 < exch> iota is a special case name that contains an integer value.
it's set to 0 at every const( declaration and incremented by 1 everytime a ;
occurs after a constant..  so const( foo = iota; bar; ) means foo = 0 and bar = 1
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16:44 < mikedee> interesting, thanks
16:44 < jordyd> mikedee: http://golang.org/doc/go_spec.html#Iota
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16:45 < exch> you can have it repeat funky expressions to..  foo = iota
<< 1; bar; <- that will automatically apply iota << 1 to bar and
any subsequent constants as well, using the current value of iota
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16:45 < mikedee> I assume that const (c0 = iota;c1 = iota;) is the same as
const (c0 = iota;c1;)
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16:45 < exch> yup
16:46 < mikedee> The docs use the former, but the package code seems to use
the latter
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16:49 < exch> meh.  os.ForkExec is giving me a headache.
http://pastebin.com/m4c6d4d59
16:50 < poe> maybe 6g uses the $GO* environment variables?
16:51 < exch> can't it see them if I use forkexec?
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16:52 < exch> mm same problem if I pass them in the envv list
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17:08 < Zeffrin> hrm, whats the go equiv to \r\n ?
17:08 < JBeshir> \n?
17:08 < Zeffrin> really?  strings.HasPrefix is complaiing about \r\n
17:09 < Zeffrin> though I think to connect to SMTP I'm going to need to
ensure it's 7bit US ASCII anyway
17:09 < exch> \r and \n both seem to work fine
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17:09 < Zeffrin> why 7 bit I have nfi, im assuming its still stored in 8 bit
bytes cuz otherwise that's going to be series pain
17:09 < Zeffrin> serious even
17:10 < Zeffrin> mail.go:97: cannot use "\x0d\n" (type string) as type uint8
in function argument
17:11 < Zeffrin> from these lines:
17:11 < Zeffrin> buf, err = r.ReadString("\r\n");
17:11 < Zeffrin> oh i see
17:11 < Zeffrin> it expects a single char
17:11 < exch> yup
17:11 < Zeffrin> thats 3am for you
17:12 < exch> :)
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17:18 < JoLeClodo> there is a dbus binding ?
17:19 < exch> not that I am aware of
17:20 < exch> grr.  this fork stuff is starting to piss me off
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17:22 < zimbatm> exch: how is your invoke line ?
17:22 < zimbatm> did you try with exec.Run ?
17:23 < exch> havn't tried run yet
17:23 < exch> there really is no reason why forkexec shouldn't work though
17:28 < exch> same deal with exec.Run
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17:33 < exch> http://pastebin.com/m7c6b265e
17:34 < zimbatm> on line 40, try replacing "nil" by "os.Environ()"
17:35 < exch> nope.  same error
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17:37 < zimbatm> also, prepend "defer" before line 45
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17:38 < exch> that causes the writer to stay open and make it a blocking
call
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17:40 < zimbatm> I believe you don't need to put additional quotes in your
args array
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17:41 < exch> probably not..  I've tried it without the quotes, but no
change
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17:43 < exch> or not.  removing the quotes + adding os.Environ() for envv
seems to fix it \o/
17:43 < exch> thanks
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17:46 < zimbatm> exch: you're welcome
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18:09 < uriel> yay, russ is back in town
18:09 < uriel> and kicking ass as usual
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18:18 < zimbatm> does go have something like pkg-config ?
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18:19 < zimbatm> I'm building a project with multiple command-line and
packages and looking at the best ways of doing it
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18:24 < uriel> no, and AFAIK at the moment the recomended way to install
extra pkgs are just to put them on your go/pkg/ dir
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18:24 < uriel> then gc will
18:24 < uriel> just find them without any effort
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18:37 < zimbatm> thx uriel, this is what I thought too
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18:37 < zimbatm> I will look into the Makefiles to see if that behavior can
be expandedd
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18:42 < KirkMcDonald> zimbatm: I filed a related issue:
http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=347
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18:45 < zimbatm> KirkMcDonald: nice, this saves me some headache :-)
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19:43 < drhodes> is there a C to Go source translator?
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19:53 < gisikw> :-( Go likes SIGSEGV's
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20:37 < fluffle> ohai, anyone else working on IRC client libraries?  i just
put together some basic stuff as a learning exercise :)
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20:42 < uriel> fluffle: there are a few irc libs already, see:
http://go-lang.cat-v.org/pure-go-libs
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20:45 < fluffle> uriel: woo, okai
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20:47 < uriel> fluffle: you are welcome
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20:55 < fluffle> uriel: interesting, one of those takes a very similar
apprach to the one I chose :)
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20:56 < uriel> fluffle: let me know if you release something, I'll add it to
the list
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20:58 < fluffle> uriel: well, i've got a git repository ;p
20:58 < fluffle> but it's not hugely complete yet
20:59 < uriel> well, up to you
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21:00 < fluffle> git://git.pl0rt.org/alex/code/goirc.git
21:00 < fluffle> Gracenotes: ping?
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21:00 < Gracenotes> pong
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21:01 < TheBlueWizard> out of curiosity, is there a Debian package for Go?
21:01 < Gracenotes> IRC libs?  :o good stuff
21:01 < clip9> uriel: this one is not in yuor list..
http://github.com/thoj/Go-IRC-Client-Library ..  not that we really need any more
irc libs :P
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21:01 < Gracenotes> I find it makes sense to use chans heavily..
particularly, you can even model IRC channels with chans, although I haven't done
this yet
21:02 < Gracenotes> and it's not always how you want to organize things
21:02 < fluffle> Gracenotes: i was just looking at your code, it's certainly
an educational thing for me :)
21:02 < Necrogami> fluffle: gotta link to that code.  I'd like to look at
it?
21:02 < fluffle> Necrogami: git clone ;)
21:03 < Necrogami> fluffle: what?
21:03 < fluffle> Necrogami: [21:01] <fluffle>
git://git.pl0rt.org/alex/code/goirc.git
21:04 < Necrogami> fluffle: thanks i wasn't here when the link was posted.
21:04 < fluffle> or if you mean Gracenotes' code;
http://code.google.com/p/go-bot/source/browse/
21:04 < Gracenotes> whoa, what's your fancy protocol about?  http is good
enough for this channel!  -.-
21:04 < Gracenotes> ;)
21:04 < fluffle> Necrogami: ah, so you weren't, i apologise :)
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21:05 < fluffle> Gracenotes: I've not put a gitweb install on my colo box,
maybe i should just migrate to github :)
21:06 < uriel> clip9: cool, thanks, added it to the list now
21:06 < clip9> github is really great'
21:06 < Necrogami> I donno i'm kinda torn right now.  Between migrating my
desktop to Slackware or Windows 7..  ugh ~.~ I'm doing all of my coding on Windows
via Notepad++ and compiling on my local linux server
21:06 < Gracenotes> I see if you've taken a somewhat more synchronous
approach
21:06 < fluffle> Gracenotes: too used to perl ;)
21:07 < tor7> Necrgami: virtual box helps if you can't decide
21:07 < Necrogami> Gracenotes: an interesting implementation ..  i've been
wanting to migrate my PHP Irc bot to go.
21:07 < fluffle> Gracenotes: i really liked the async reader/writer
channels, was tempted to nick the idea ;)
21:08 < Necrogami> tor7 yeah that's what i was thinking about doing.
21:08 < Gracenotes> currently I do con.Write <- "PRIVMSG #chan :whoa",
but I could even have channel-specific chans, and do chanChan <- "whoa";
21:09 < Gracenotes> the approach is pretty extensible
21:09 < fluffle> yes, and way more idiomatic than using send() etc
21:10 < Gracenotes> mm, if you happen to like chan things flying all of the
place
21:10 < Gracenotes> *over
21:10 < Necrogami> Any news on the Sqlite db connection for go?
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21:12 < fluffle> Gracenotes: the features of the language match quite nicely
with the requirements of an IRC library, makes sense to use them :)
21:12 < blAckEn3d> hey, what's the equivalent for void * in go?
21:13 < Kibiz0r> interface{}
21:13 < blAckEn3d> thanks
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21:13 * uriel wants a real irc client and mail client in Go!
21:13 * Kibiz0r wants a game engine in Go. :P
21:13 < saati> uriel: hf writing it :D
21:14 < uriel> hf?
21:14 < saati> have fun
21:14 < uriel> ah!
21:14 < uriel> eh
21:14 < Kibiz0r> gl hf dd
21:14 < Necrogami> Kiviz0r i'm working on a web game engine backed on go.
21:14 < uriel> Necrogami: that sounds fun ...
21:15 < Gracenotes> once I comprehend FRP in Haskell, the second thing I'll
do is try making such a system in Go.
21:15 < Gracenotes> should be some interesting, and pretty much nothing else
21:15 < uriel> actually, I lied, what I want is an alternative to bitlbee,
which is a wonderful idea, but the implementation could use some improvement
21:16 < JBeshir> Minbif?
21:16 < Necrogami> uriel: yeah should be i want to have a SOAP interface for
data transfers though.
21:16 < uriel> Necrogami: hah!
21:16 < clip9> i can't live without bitlbee :P
21:16 < exch> uh oh
21:16 < JBeshir> uriel: Minbif is a competing implementation.
21:16 * uriel is too easily trolled, and everyone knows how to troll me :(
21:16 < uriel> JBeshir: let me see
21:16 < clip9> all other MSN clients are annoying
21:16 < Gracenotes> I just end up using VPS services
21:17 < uriel> JBeshir: oh, it uses the damned libpurple, which use glib
*yuck* :(
21:17 < uriel> uh, worse, it is c++!
21:17 < exch> libpurple.  that sounds familiar..  isn't that what drives
pidgin?
21:17 < kfx> just writing a decent mail client would be an achievement,
regardless of language
21:18 < Necrogami> kfx: I've not found a mail client that can handle my
gmail without completely choking tod eath
21:18 < Necrogami> death*
21:19 < kfx> sup is worth looking at, but it's off-topic for this channel :)
21:19 < uriel> kfx: well, Michael R. Elkin, author of mutt, was hanging out
here for a while
21:19 < uriel> maybe there is some hope..
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21:19 < Necrogami> 1 - 100 of 82920 <-- my gmail....
21:20 < kfx> it's easier to configure sendmail than mutt
21:20 < mpl> huh?  mutt is dead easy to configure.
21:20 < mpl> at least on distros which provide a .muttrc where you only have
to uncomment what you want, granted.
21:21 < uriel> mpl: yea, a .muttrc longer and more convoluted than
sendmail.cf
21:21 < mpl> uriel: long, but easy to understand.  sendmail is not.
21:21 < hstimer> is there a function in the go libs that escapes text
properly for html?
21:22 < uriel> damn, an on-topic question!  Perhaps in the templating
package?
21:22 < exch> http.URLEncode I believe
21:22 < uriel> (random guess, sorry)
21:22 < exch> and URLDecode
21:22 < uriel> exch: url-encoding is not the same as html-escaping
21:22 < exch> close enough :p
21:22 < uriel> (that they are different is quite sad, but then both urls and
html are a mess)
21:22 < Necrogami> actually not even close
21:22 < uriel> not close enough, more like completely different
21:23 < Necrogami> since url encoding for a space is %20
21:23 < mpl> kfx: btw, upas/mailfs from plan9port might be able to cope with
gmail.  I think I tried once; it took ages to load the few thousand mails but I
think it worked.
21:24 < exch> hstimer: you mean you want to convert unicode characters to
html entities and vice versa?
21:24 < Necrogami> haha @ my modem port blocking freenode's ping bot / port
scan
21:24 < hstimer> exch: yes
21:24 < exch>
http://github.com/jteeuwen/go-pkg-xmlx/blob/master/src/entitymap.go me to the
rescue then
21:24 < hstimer> exch: like ampersand
21:24 < exch> I take cookies as payment.
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21:25 < hstimer> exch: very cool!
21:25 < exch> is that close enough?  :p
21:25 < hstimer> exch: perfect :)
21:26 < exch> goodie :)
21:28 < Kibiz0r> loadNonStandardEntities...  I hope you didn't write that
all by hand...
21:28 < exch> copy/paste with a bit of search/replace magic :p
21:28 < hstimer> sed, I would hope
21:29 < Necrogami> anyone know of a good working sqlite package for go?
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21:30 < Kibiz0r> I wonder if they called it Go so that the inevitable port
of xUnit would be called gUnit.
21:31 < Null-A> go-go-gadget
21:32 < KirkMcDonald> Kibiz0r: It's so they would have a good debugger name.
21:32 < KirkMcDonald> Kibiz0r: Go Ogle
21:32 < Null-A> gdb?
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22:19 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5797g by [Robert Griesemer] in
go/src/pkg/go/parser/ -- Correct expression level for argument lists.
22:20 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5797i by [Fumitoshi Ukai] in go/ -- Add myself
to CONTRIBUTORS
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22:36 < plexdev> http://is.gd/579O8 by [Austin Clements] in go/misc/emacs/
-- Make comment-start/-end changes buffer-local instead of global.
22:36 < plexdev> http://is.gd/579Oe by [Fumitoshi Ukai] in 2 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- Add WebSocket server framework hooked into http.
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22:44 < getisboy> I'm getting an error that 2147483648 overflows int.  Can't
an int can be 32 or 64 bits?
22:44 < JBeshir> Yes, as determined by the implementation, not however
you're using it.
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22:46 < getisboy> The implementation of what?  The compiler?
22:48 < JBeshir> For the architecture, yes.
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22:48 < JBeshir> The idea is that it can be 32bit on 32bit systems and 64bit
on 64bit systems, as most efficient for each.
22:48 < getisboy> Ah. Thanks.
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23:01 < exch> int is 32 bits on my 64 bit system
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23:02 < alexsuraci> woo, parser now handles the comment portions of the
language "spec"
23:02 < alexsuraci> now for nested multiline comments.
23:06 < alexsuraci> done.  that was easier than I expected...  /me
investigates
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23:17 < r2p2> ./8.out foo
23:17 < r2p2> do i need the flag package to get parameters?
23:18 < KirkMcDonald> r2p2: os.Args
23:18 < r2p2> ah os - thanks :D
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23:29 < gisikw> Any chance I could get a one-liner to right-pad a
byte-array?
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23:41 < kfx> does go have something like
http://search.cpan.org/~pjf/Acme-ButFirst-1.00/lib/Acme/ButFirst.pm
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23:55 < Zeffrin> kfx: that doc says it all "Any use of this module should be
considered a bug."
23:56 < kfx> Zeffrin: that doesn't really answer my question
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