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00:10 < uman> How can I create a function that can take any slice as an
argument?
00:10 < uman> I tried declaring it to take a []interface{} but when I passed
other slices to it, the compiler complained that it couldn't convert the slices of
other types to []interface{}
00:15 < plexdev> http://is.gd/5J8tL by [Yongjian Xu] in go/src/pkg/bytes/ --
Remove redundant size check in resize.  Let callers worry about that and resize
should just do "resize".
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00:50 < goplexian> if an author puts code online but does not include
copyright, or license info, then could someone just take that code and do whatever
they want with it?
00:51 < damjan> goplexian: no
00:51 < damjan> in that case full copyright is in effect
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00:51 < vsmatck1> Since the 1970s everything has an implicit copyright.
00:52 < damjan> ..  which basically forbids any use
00:52 < vsmatck1> I usually slap a BSD license on my stuff without the
attribution clause.
00:52 < vsmatck1> That's pretty much a "do what you want to" license.
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00:55 < goplexian> so a person could put code online, like a publicly
searchable archive, and if it does not include copyright or license information,
the it is forbidden to use?
01:00 < mycroftiv> goplexian: in the usa, copyright is automaticaly granted
to creative works embodied in tangible form, and i believe there is no presumption
of licensing just because someone puts code on their webpage
01:02 < goplexian> yeah, well I found some code and I'd like to use it, but
the author didnt write any licencing info or even a copyright notice anywhere so I
emailed him to ask if it was ok but I got no reply so far
01:03 < goplexian> I could re-write it I guess
01:05 < anticw> goplexian: you can't really, not if you've read it
01:05 < anticw> goplexian: email and ask for a suitable license is probably
best
01:06 < goplexian> aw man
01:06 < goplexian> so what I'm forbidden from writing any program that does
the same thing as this one?
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01:32 < mycroftiv> goplexian: ianal but i dont you are forbidden from that
at all - you can even re-use the core algorithm because mathematical algorithms
are not intellectual property, although the bullshit anti-DRM-breaking stuff in us
DMCA complicates that a bit
01:33 < uman> goplexian: A common misconception is that a license on code
puts certain restrictions in place.  This is not true -- these licenses remove
certain restrictions.  Unlicensed code has all legal restrictions on by default
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01:35 < uman> goplexian: in theory it's not illegal to implement something
you've read before as long as you're not copying anything you read from there.  In
practice, erring on the side of caution is always good
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01:36 < uman> goplexian: for example, I'm not sure but I believe anyone who
has ever read any MS Windows code is forbidden by the Wine team from contributing
to the Wine project.
01:36 < uman> just to be absolutely sure everything is legal
01:37 < anticw> goplexian: the issue is that it's very hard to prove you
didn't copy something or transcode it, even subconciously
01:38 < uman> right
01:39 < uman> however, if there isn't a chance you'll ever be sued, and are
just asking because you want to do the Right Thing, then in theory yes you should
be fine just rewriting it as long as you don't copy anything
01:39 < uman> but now we're getting into the realm of "this is just my
opinion"
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03:35 < Refefer> might someone explain to me the ideosyncracies attached to
interfaces?  A simple trial of mine fails: http://pastebin.com/mcc1b562
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03:38 < uman> Refefer: I believe you have to cast a to Test explicitly
before using it as such
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03:41 < uman> Refefer: also, the type pointer-to-A implements the Test
interface, whereas A itself does no
03:41 < uman> t
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03:47 < Refefer> interesting
03:49 < Refefer> uman: Excellent, it was indeed the issue with the pointer.
Thank you!
03:50 < uman> Refefer: No problem.  I too am trying to learn Go at the
moment, so it's a pleasure to help someone out who is in the same boat :)
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04:30 < quag> off the top of your head, does anyone remember how to convert
an octal string to a number?
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04:35 < quag> strconv.Btoui64("644", 8)
04:35 < Will_D> Should I be able to cause a segmentation fault without using
the Pointer type or something similar?  (e.g.  interfacing with C)
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04:44 < Will_D> nm
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05:17 < Ycros> Will_D: sure, if you use a null pointer
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05:29 < Will_D> Ycros, yep
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05:31 < Will_D> I should have read the segmentation message....
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05:39 < uman> Will_D:
05:39 < uman> package main
05:39 < uman> func main() { var p *int = nil;
05:40 < uman> *p = 1;
05:40 < uman> }
05:40 < Will_D> I used the string type, but that was my error.
05:40 < uman> causes sigsegv
05:41 < Will_D> thanks
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06:10 < goplexian> uman: thanks, I was afk, but I have read those messages
you wrote now, I think i'll probably just end up re-writing I guess since I've
tried to contact the author and haven't been able
06:10 < uman> goplexian: okay, keep in mind IANAL ;)
06:11 < goplexian> uman: right, but you'll still bail me out right?  ..
right??
06:11 < goplexian> >.>
06:11 < uman> I have like $200 to my name
06:11 < uman> so I doubt it
06:12 < goplexian> wait im in canada..  problem averted
06:14 < uman> nice
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08:18 < jackman> hey, everybody!
08:18 < jackman> it looks like the last interesting conversation took place
hours ago...
08:20 < adiabatic> It's Friday night.  You think poorly of us and our
ability to get out and have a life :P
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09:10 < jackman> uhhh...
09:10 < jackman> i thought irc was a life...
09:10 < jackman> :P
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10:38 < callidus> hi, not sure if this is the right place to ask, I have a
question about go syntax.  I would like to use, in effect, a function pointer and
im not sure of the syntax to use ( or even if its a good idea to use such things )
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11:00 < jhh> callidus: var foo func(int) bool, would be a pointer(?) to a
function mapping ints to bools
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11:01 < jhh> probably foo is a reference rather than a pointer
11:02 < callidus> jhh: ah yes i see now, thanks :-)
11:02 < jhh> if you have a function bar, which maps int to bool, you can
write "foo = bar"
11:02 < jhh> and then "foo()"
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11:02 < jhh> callidus: np
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12:03 < callidus> i would like to automatically setup the initial values of
some private internal variables of a struct type.  I read that go has no
constructors, whats the correct way to go about doing this ?
12:08 < taruti> callidus: 1) don't export the struct, 2) have a creation
function.
12:08 < taruti> callidus: e.g.  Foo* Create()
12:09 < callidus> taruti: I see so a little bit like a factory function
then, thank you.
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12:14 < callidus> so would it be normal to say, create an exported interface
for a type.  Then create a non-exported struct type satisfiying the interface.
The provide a Create style function to return the type as an interface.....  or is
this just a bit over engineered ;-)so would it be normal to say, create an
exported interface for a type.  Then create a non-exported struct type satisfying
the interface.  The provide a Create style func
12:14 < callidus> return the type as its interface.....  or is this just a
bit over engineered ;-)
12:14 < callidus> oops, sorry for the double msg :-/
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12:53 < napsy> Hello.  Is there a way to clone the whole array?
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12:59 < jessta> napsy: you can use copy()
12:59 < napsy> ok thanks
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13:12 < jhh> is there a way for unit testing to check if a function prints
something to stdout?
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13:27 < callidus> jhh: perhaps with a buffered io object, then using "func
(*Writer) Buffered" to see how many bites were written to it.  Maybe
13:28 < callidus> *bytes
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13:41 < callidus> am i right in thinking i can use any object that satisfiys
an interface interchangably with any finction that take that interface?
13:41 < callidus> *function
13:42 < jessta> yeah
13:44 < callidus> can this also be done if the types are pointers?  im
seeing the error "cannot use new(AssertPayload) (type *AssertPayload) as type
*Payload in function argument
13:44 < callidus> where AssertPayload fits the interface defined as Payload
13:49 < jessta> interfaces are value types
13:51 < callidus> jessta: ok, thank you.
13:52 < callidus> jessta: working now, thanks for your help
13:53 < jessta> no worries
13:54 < callidus> hummm, actually while on the subject of value types, if I
create a function with a receiver Foo, instead of *Foo, will go pass this by
refferance or by value ? i.e.  will any temporary be created ?
13:59 < jessta> yep
14:00 < jessta> a function with a reciever Foo will act on a copy of Foo
14:01 < callidus> ok somthing to keep in mind then, thanks for the info
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16:19 < dho> morning
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16:21 < dagle> Morning.
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16:24 < jessta> morning
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16:36 < jhh> Morning
16:39 < jhh> dho: I built a parser for the jam/make files
16:40 < dho> i saw your comment
16:48 < jhh> seems like the discussion in the thread died out somehow
16:50 < dho> it's just been busy with holidays and whatnot
16:51 < dho> heading out for a bit
16:51 < dho> bbl
16:51 < kimelto> morning!
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17:01 < taruti> hmm, now that I think about it Ada seems quite nice actually
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17:01 < taruti> is there any Go/C++/Ada/D comparison anywhere?
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17:05 < jessta> what would you be comparing?
17:08 < taruti> various features etc
17:09 < taruti> Go seems "cool" but lacking when compared
17:09 < taruti> less overcomplicated than C++
17:11 < raichoo> Don't compare too much.  Take whatever does the job right
;)
17:14 < raichoo> Anyway.  Go feels like a mixture of Newsqueak, Python and
C. At least for me.
17:16 < raichoo> Maybe even Haskell (concerning interfaces) But I'm not an
expert when it comes to Haskell ^^
17:20 < jessta> taruti: lacking what?
17:22 < dagle> Hmmm.  What changes was made to be able to do vector[1] just
as vector.At(1) ?
17:24 < dagle> When I look in container/vector there is a type Vector but
it's not defined or included in anyway.
17:29 < dagle> Aha.  nvm.
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17:34 < taruti> jessta: things like generics, exceptions and lacking support
currently for a large number of things.
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17:39 < jessta> which other things?
17:40 < taruti> jessta: e.g.  writing demons is not really supported at the
moment
17:41 < jessta> what features of a language is required for writing daemons?
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17:41 < taruti> jessta: the runtime system supporting forking.
17:42 < taruti> language implementation rather than language specification
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17:48 < jessta> there is syscall.ForkExec()
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17:51 < taruti> jessta: which fails when a fork is needed.  e.g.  open file
descriptors are not preserved.
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18:02 < jessta> taruti: ah, fork() is probably a bit of a problem for go
programs
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18:24 < BleSS> how to get data from a xml file?
18:25 < jessta> BleSS: there is an xml package
18:26 < BleSS> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/161400/
18:26 < BleSS> If I'm not wrong it's necessary to write type declarations
(struct) to each data that you would get.
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18:56 < dcw312> Anyone here?
18:56 < dcw312> I'll check back later.
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19:25 < napsy> Hello.  How do I convert an int to a string?
19:25 < napsy> myval.(string) ?
19:25 <+iant> strconv.Itoa
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19:26 < napsy> ok
19:26 < goplexian> then you need to add `import ("strconv")`
19:27 < napsy> ok
19:28 < goplexian> I think myval.String() would work if you added a Stringer
func to myval
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19:30 < goplexian> heh nm, then you'd still need a way to convert it for
output
19:31 < goplexian> i need coffee
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20:04 < adk9> i haven't looked at the sources deeply yet -- can someone let
me know where the goroutines scheduler code is?
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20:06 < adk9> nm, i got it.
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20:46 < elmar_> anyonw knows how to call a C function with and int pointer
argument?
20:46 < elmar_> I get the error: cannot use p (type *int) as type *_C_int in
function argument
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20:47 < elmar_> the same code with float64 works
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