--- Log opened Mon Mar 08 00:00:21 2010 00:00 -!- deso [~deso@x0561a.wh30.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:02 -!- awidegreen_ [~quassel@p5B060B39.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07 -!- wuehlmaus [~wuehlmaus@p4FCC3FC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:08 -!- wuehlmaus [~wuehlmaus@p4FCC7464.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:08 -!- no_mind [~orion@122.161.39.233] has joined #go-nuts 00:09 -!- mejja [~user@c-68b6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.14/2009090900]] 00:15 -!- powerje [~powerje@2002:4cc0:8dca:0:213:e8ff:feaa:ae2b] has quit [Quit: exit] 00:16 -!- viirya [~viirya@cml506-25.csie.ntu.edu.tw] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:22 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.155.12] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 00:22 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.155.12] has joined #go-nuts 00:28 -!- nettok_ [~netto@200.119.155.12] has joined #go-nuts 00:28 -!- triplez [~triplez@cm230.kappa1.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: triplez] 00:32 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.155.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:34 -!- nettok__ [~netto@200.119.155.12] has joined #go-nuts 00:36 -!- gnuvince [~vince@72.0.219.106] has quit [Quit: What the fruit is goin' on here!?] 00:36 -!- hevalbaranov [~hevalbara@88.247.204.111] has joined #go-nuts 00:37 -!- nettok_ [~netto@200.119.155.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:39 -!- nettok_ [~netto@200.119.155.12] has joined #go-nuts 00:39 < d_m> have any of you used the ncurses bindings for go? http://github.com/jabb/gocurse 00:40 < d_m> i can't get it to compile (and i'm too much of a go newbie to understand why) 00:43 -!- nettok__ [~netto@200.119.155.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:45 -!- sudi [~chatzilla@dslb-084-056-015-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:47 -!- kota1111 [~kota1111@gw2.kbmj.jp] has joined #go-nuts 00:48 -!- nettok_ [~netto@200.119.155.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:53 < exch> it's quite possible it last updated a while ago. The go API and compiler is constantly being developed/changed. You'll have to manually update the source of the package to reflect the current compiler/api state 00:55 -!- nighty__ [~nighty@210.188.173.245] has joined #go-nuts 00:57 < d_m> exch: ok. i will probably be asking some more specific questions about it then. thanks! 01:04 -!- nettok_ [~netto@200.119.155.12] has joined #go-nuts 01:07 -!- NinoScript [~Adium@pc-16-61-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:13 < uriel> d_m: or you might want to contact the author of the lib and ask them to update it to work with the latest Go toolchain 01:14 -!- NinoScript [~Adium@pc-16-61-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:15 -!- NinoScript [~Adium@pc-16-61-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:17 -!- nettok_ [~netto@200.119.155.12] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 01:18 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.155.12] has joined #go-nuts 01:19 -!- NinoScript [~Adium@pc-16-61-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:25 -!- NinoScript [~Adium@pc-16-61-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:26 -!- NinoScript [~Adium@pc-16-61-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:30 -!- triplez [~triplez@bb116-14-66-213.singnet.com.sg] has joined #go-nuts 01:31 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: sw4, jimki, anticw, araujo, merlin83, Tigge_, GabydeWilde_, caw 01:32 -!- nettok_ [~netto@200.119.155.12] has joined #go-nuts 01:32 -!- Netsplit over, joins: GabydeWilde_, jimki, anticw, Tigge_, araujo, merlin83, sw4 01:33 -!- stalled [~411@unaffiliated/stalled] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:34 -!- stalled [~411@unaffiliated/stalled] has joined #go-nuts 01:35 -!- verma [~verma@173-21-32-42.client.mchsi.com] has joined #go-nuts 01:36 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.155.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:36 -!- nettok_ [~netto@200.119.155.12] has quit [Client Quit] 01:36 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.155.12] has joined #go-nuts 01:38 -!- caw [skyyy@phonzdesktop.rh.rit.edu] has joined #go-nuts 01:42 -!- nettok_ [~netto@200.119.155.12] has joined #go-nuts 01:44 -!- gnuvince [~vince@206.71-ppp.3menatwork.com] has joined #go-nuts 01:46 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.155.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:49 -!- kizzo [~kizzo@67.188.70.105] has joined #go-nuts 01:49 -!- aho [~nya@g226202175.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 01:50 < kizzo> Does Go implement design by contract, or is there a library for it? 01:51 < kizzo> I'd give Go another +1 if it does, b/c that would be awesome. 01:52 < kizzo> And I'm pretty much referring to the wikipedia definition: preconditions, postconditions, and invarients. 02:01 < exch> not by itself. Not sure if there's a library for it 02:11 -!- nettok_ [~netto@200.119.155.12] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 02:12 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.155.12] has joined #go-nuts 02:13 < ak2> question regarding goroutines 02:13 < ak2> how do i get the routine to return a value which i can access in the main thread? 02:13 < ak2> i tried passing a pointer to the goroutine but never got anything back in it 02:15 < ak2> anticw: there? 02:17 < uriel> 01:51 < kizzo> I'd give Go another +1 if it does, b/c that would be awesome. 02:17 < uriel> that is not a very convincing argument 02:18 < uriel> ak2: channels? 02:19 < ak2> uriel: trying them right now.. didnt get the value back.. i think i didnt implement the channel properly.. 02:19 < ak2> basically, i think my usage of the lock was wrong.. trying now 02:20 -!- andrewh [~andrewh@94-194-56-42.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:23 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 02:28 < hstimer> can a map be a field of a struct or must it be a *map? 02:28 -!- tav [~tav@78.146.253.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:39 -!- tav [~tav@92.29.33.105] has joined #go-nuts 02:39 < hstimer> hmmm... looks like it can be just a map...you still have to call make on it 02:42 -!- powerje [~powerje@2002:4cc0:8dca:0:213:e8ff:feaa:ae2b] has joined #go-nuts 02:43 -!- powerje [~powerje@2002:4cc0:8dca:0:213:e8ff:feaa:ae2b] has quit [Client Quit] 02:55 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.155.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:59 -!- hevalbaranov [~hevalbara@88.247.204.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:59 < ak2> got it 02:59 < ak2> uriel: another question 03:00 < ak2> how can i define a global array of integers but specify its size in some function? 03:03 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:03 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-74-96-89-29.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:03 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 03:16 < uriel> ak2: pointer? 03:20 < ak2> make([][]int, n, n)? 03:20 < ak2> i've done more java in the recent past.. so, think in terms of objects... 03:21 -!- gisikw [~gisikw@137.28.246.34] has joined #go-nuts 03:22 -!- gisikw [~gisikw@137.28.246.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:37 -!- hstimer [~hstimer@2002:62ea:197d:0:226:bbff:fe05:dd9b] has quit [Quit: hstimer] 03:45 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:47 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:51 -!- yatoo [~marcus@host86-158-49-120.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:56 -!- hstimer [~hstimer@2002:62ea:197d:0:226:bbff:fe05:dd9b] has joined #go-nuts 04:00 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-99-40-250-203.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:03 -!- TR2N [email@89.180.182.42] has left #go-nuts [] 04:07 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:07 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 04:16 -!- kssreeram [~kssreeram@122.174.70.202] has quit [Quit: kssreeram] 04:19 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 04:23 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has joined #go-nuts 04:24 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-99-40-250-203.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 04:24 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:26 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 04:44 -!- stalled [~411@unaffiliated/stalled] has quit [Excess Flood] 04:45 -!- stalled [~411@unaffiliated/stalled] has joined #go-nuts 04:55 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:55 -!- Gracenotes [~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has joined #go-nuts 05:06 -!- samfuqua [~sam@cpe-098-026-078-040.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 05:07 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 05:43 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:52 -!- kssreeram [~kssreeram@122.165.6.245] has joined #go-nuts 05:53 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@d64-180-45-230.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:55 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 05:56 < anticw> ak2: am now 06:07 < ak2> anticw: got through the initial hicups 06:08 < ak2> now working on implementing an algorithm using those pieces 06:08 < ak2> and concurrency.. 06:12 < hstimer> what is wrong with this: 06:12 < hstimer> v1, ok := v.(*vector.StringVector) 06:12 < hstimer> get this error: invalid type assertion: v.(*vector.StringVector) (non-interface type *vector.StringVector on left) 06:13 < anticw> what is v? 06:13 < hstimer> *vector.StringVector 06:13 -!- tux21b [~christoph@90.146.60.30] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 06:14 < anticw> you're casting a *vector.StringVector to a *vector.StringVector ? 06:14 < hstimer> v came out of a map 06:15 < hstimer> v, exist := r.Query[key] 06:15 < anticw> a map of ? 06:15 < hstimer> make(map[string]*vector.StringVector) 06:15 -!- General13372 [~support@71-84-247-187.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 06:16 < anticw> so why the type assertion? 06:16 < hstimer> uhmmm.... good question...... 06:19 -!- General1337 [~support@71-84-247-187.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:19 < anticw> StringVector is string[] ... not an interface type 06:19 -!- m1ndwarp [~m1ndwarp@xdsl-78-35-152-125.netcologne.de] has joined #go-nuts 06:20 < anticw> http://l:8000/doc/go_spec.html#Type_assertions 06:20 < anticw> "For an expression x of __interface type__ and a type T, the primary expression" 06:25 < hstimer> thanks -- that helps 06:30 -!- aho [~nya@g226202175.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: EXEC_over.METHOD_SUBLIMATION] 07:13 -!- kaib [~kaib@vallila-gw.hupnet.helsinki.fi] has joined #go-nuts 07:14 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v kaib] by ChanServ 07:17 -!- Sindikat [~username@95.56.1.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:18 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:32 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 07:33 -!- ikaros [~ikaros@g227039211.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 07:34 -!- Sindikat [~username@95.56.36.210] has joined #go-nuts 07:40 -!- trickie [~trickie@94.100.112.225] has joined #go-nuts 07:41 -!- Garen [~garen.p@75.87.255.36] has joined #go-nuts 07:42 -!- asmo_ [~asmo@c-f6c5e055.1155-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:46 < ak2> anticw: there? 07:47 -!- m1ndwarp [~m1ndwarp@xdsl-78-35-152-125.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: m1ndwarp] 07:47 < anticw> ak2: sorta 07:47 < ak2> ok, i coded up this function but i'm getting two errors which i dont know how to figure out 07:47 < ak2> 1. function doesnt return anything 07:48 < ak2> 2. two variables declared but never used 07:48 < ak2> now.. they are being used.. and the function is returning 07:49 < anticw> w/o seeing the code / results it's hard to comment 07:50 < ak2> i'll put it up on pastebin 07:51 < ak2> http://pastebin.com/RpP71DVR 07:54 < ak2> ok got it to work 07:54 < ak2> :) 07:54 < anticw> you know := 07:54 < anticw> in scopy makes a new var right 07:54 < anticw> ? 07:55 < anticw> s/scopy/scope/ 07:55 < ak2> yes 07:55 < ak2> i missed that 07:56 < ak2> just removed that.. it worked 07:56 < ak2> but the return thing is funny.. 07:56 < anticw> why? 07:56 < anticw> you have no return 07:56 < ak2> there's an if condition.. and a return at the end of that block 07:56 < anticw> right 07:56 < ak2> and a return in the following else 07:56 < anticw> well, that's a know TODO 07:56 < anticw> known 07:56 < anticw> gah, 07:56 < ak2> is it? 07:57 < anticw> there is a bug open for the if { return } else { return } case 07:57 < ak2> oh ok 07:57 < ak2> i wasnt aware 07:57 < ak2> i just changed the code a bit and got the return out of the if and else blocks 07:57 < ak2> works now 07:58 < anticw> http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=65 07:59 < ak2> hmm 08:01 < Beorann> ak2: in a way, it makes sense, because it's sueless to have an else clause if your if clase returns 08:01 < Beorann> useless 08:01 < anticw> it's still a compiler bug though 08:01 < anticw> there are other cases where you can hit it 08:01 < ak2> Beorann: agreed 08:01 < Beorann> anticw agreed there too 08:01 < anticw> gcc used to have the same issue 08:02 < anticw> for the most part people would do " return 0 // avoid blah " 08:02 < anticw> or something 08:02 < Beorann> anticw: oh? in version 1.0 ? 08:02 < anticw> i think 2.7.3 had it 08:02 < anticw> iant probably could tell you 08:02 < Beorann> ah... I skipped that one I guess :p 08:02 < Beorann> anyone here who knows cgo? 08:03 < Beorann> is it still impossible to call C function callbacks? 08:03 < anticw> i think so 08:03 < Beorann> (with that I mean C function pointers) 08:03 -!- ShadowIce [~pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has joined #go-nuts 08:03 < anticw> well, if the callback is into C you can fake it 08:04 < Beorann> how would I do that? 08:04 < Beorann> I'm currently wrapping the whole of SDL for my CGO library 08:04 < Beorann> one hiccup is the SDL_rwops 08:04 < Beorann> it has pointers to read() seek() close() 08:04 < anticw> i wonder if you can't put a layer in-between (done in C) that would have the callbacks for you 08:04 < Beorann> in a structs 08:05 -!- analogue [~analogue@toulouse.jfg-networks.net] has joined #go-nuts 08:05 < anticw> then it would take the results and allow access to them via some means 08:05 < anticw> it would be ugly but it should be possible 08:05 -!- asmo [~asmo@c83-248-32-75.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #go-nuts 08:05 < Beorann> that's another problem (bug ?) I've been having with CGO 08:06 < Beorann> normally, if you put C code in the comments above the import "c" it's supposed to incorporate it in the cgo output. However, I'm getting C compile errors. 08:06 < Beorann> I do spit up my C package I'm wrapping over many cgo files. Should that be a problem? 08:08 < anticw> the only time i tried cgo i found it a bit fragile and iffy, so i wrote a shim to expose the APIs in a more limited manner 08:11 < Beorann> how do you write such a shim and have it compiled? 08:12 -!- recover [recover@ip21278.lbinternet.se] has joined #go-nuts 08:13 < Beorann> anticw: how do you write such a shim and have it compiled? 08:17 -!- Macpunk [~macpunk@2002:48b1:1add:0:eee:e6ff:fec7:7eaa] has joined #go-nuts 08:20 -!- andrewh [~andrewh@94-194-56-42.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has joined #go-nuts 08:20 -!- kaigan|work [~kaigan@c-8290e255.1411-10-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #go-nuts 08:23 < anticw> Beorann: i made it a .so 08:23 < Beorann> hmmmm... 08:23 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has quit [Quit: path[l]] 08:23 < Beorann> maybe it would be easier to use the go compiler's api directly? 08:24 < Beorann> I mean, it's runtime package 08:24 < Beorann> it's not portable to gccgo, nut neither is cgo, at least for now 08:24 < anticw> you mean have an SDL wrapper call into the runtime directly? 08:25 -!- ikaros [~ikaros@g227039211.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leave the magic to Houdini] 08:25 < Beorann> no, I mean, just like how the go runtime calls C functions 08:25 < Beorann> for that i'd have to use go's internals, though 08:26 < anticw> that's fairly specific though and can't call external code generically 08:26 < Beorann> hmm 08:27 < Beorann> gccgo has more potential here, I guess, but it still doesn't support garbage collection... I wonder why dthey didn't simply link it with boehm's gc and be done with it likey they did for Java. 08:28 -!- wrtp [~rog@89.241.130.254] has joined #go-nuts 08:29 < anticw> concurrency issues 08:30 < Beorann> oh yeah, boehm needs to be specially compiled for multithreading, right? 08:31 < Beorann> I think gccgo will be an important project for mainstream adoption of Go... too bad I'm not so experienced with such low level programming. 08:32 < anticw> gccgo is almost if not entirely the work of one person, things take time 08:36 < Beorann> agreed there, maybe that person needs help, though 08:37 < anticw> yeah, but i'm not a medical doctor 08:38 < Beorann> I mean help with programming :) 08:39 < Beorann> although it's true that visionaries often seem a bit odd to others 08:41 < anticw> he doesn't seem odd 08:42 < Beorann> then I misunderstood you completely, I though you were joking :p 08:43 < Beorann> anyway, anywone knows how to use CGO to wrap a C pointer to an array to a cgo array or slice? 08:45 -!- m1ndwarp [~m1ndwarp@xdsl-78-35-152-125.netcologne.de] has joined #go-nuts 08:47 -!- Macpunk [~macpunk@2002:48b1:1add:0:eee:e6ff:fec7:7eaa] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:48 < anticw> if you have a C pointer use the unsafe package 08:53 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@p5B060B39.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 08:55 -!- SirLancer [jhame@melkki.cs.helsinki.fi] has joined #go-nuts 08:56 < Beorann> anticw: yes, that'w whay I'm tring, but I'm not sure how.. how can I make an unsafe.Pointer into an array? 08:58 -!- niekie [~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:01 < anticw> Beorann: v := (*desiredType)unsafe.Pointer(&somethingElse) 09:02 < Beorann> oh? 09:02 < Beorann> so I first make it a *uint8 for example? 09:02 < Beorann> and then I can make a slice out of it? 09:04 < anticw> first make a large array type, [1024]byte for example 09:04 < anticw> then make a slice from that 09:04 < anticw> s/large// 09:05 -!- andrewh [~andrewh@94-194-56-42.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:05 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-74-96-89-29.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 09:06 < Beorann> ks := C.SDL_GetKeyState(nil) ; ptr := (*uint8)(unsafe.Pointer(ks)) ; res := ([K_LAST]uint8)(unsafe.NewArray(ptr, K_LAST)) 09:06 -!- niekie [~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie] has joined #go-nuts 09:06 < Beorann> the last part doesn't work, though 09:07 < anticw> what is ptr in this case? 09:07 < anticw> bytes from SDL? 09:08 < Beorann> yes, it's a pointer to an unsigned char array that is exactly K_LAT long (a static array) 09:08 < Beorann> K_LAST 09:08 < anticw> K_LAST is a constant? 09:08 < Beorann> yes. so the pointer points to that static array 09:08 < Beorann> in SDL 09:09 < Beorann> SDL_GetKeyState() returns that pointer 09:13 < anticw> sec 09:14 < anticw> what is the desired type? 09:14 < anticw> slice of bytes? 09:15 -!- erus` [~chatzilla@mailgate.ips-international.com] has joined #go-nuts 09:15 < anticw> ba := (*[K_LAST]byte)(unsafe.Pointer(args)) 09:16 < anticw> bs := ba[0:K_LAST] 09:16 < anticw> s/args/ptr/ sorry 09:19 -!- ogh [~ogh@denksoft.iasi.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 09:19 < Beorann> anticw: sliecof bytes or array of bytes would be nice, yes. 09:19 < Beorann> anticw: OIC, let me try :) 09:23 -!- Sindikat [~username@95.56.36.210] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:26 < Beorann> anticw: Nice, it seems to work (at least no segmentation violations) 09:27 < Beorann> the cgo preprocessor is having troubles, though, it's failing to compile intermittently I get malloc/free deadlocks, segmentation violations, etc. 09:30 -!- ak2 [~ak2@c-24-6-88-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ak2] 09:31 -!- ak2 [~ak2@c-24-6-88-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 09:31 -!- g0bl1n [~anonymous@a213-22-200-76.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #go-nuts 09:38 -!- Sindikat [~username@95.56.19.138] has joined #go-nuts 09:39 < anticw> Beorann: if that ptr returned is supposed to be free'd you'll leak doing that 09:40 -!- ct529 [~quassel@77-44-78-159.xdsl.murphx.net] has joined #go-nuts 09:43 -!- Sindikat [~username@95.56.19.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:48 -!- ak2 [~ak2@c-24-6-88-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ak2] 09:51 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has joined #go-nuts 09:56 -!- daed [daed@countercultured.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:58 -!- Sindikat [~username@95.56.17.197] has joined #go-nuts 09:59 -!- SRabbelier [~SRabbelie@ip138-114-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:59 -!- kaib [~kaib@vallila-gw.hupnet.helsinki.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:03 < Beorann> anticw: non, that is a pointer to a static buffer that need not and should not be freed. 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What do i use, regexp or strings ? 14:11 -!- noam [~k4jd095b@87.70.183.61] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:11 -!- noam [~k4jd095b@87.70.183.61] has joined #go-nuts 14:16 < wrtp> no_mind: what style of quotes? 14:17 < no_mind> double quotes 14:17 < no_mind> right now using strings.Count 14:17 -!- pshahmumbai [~prashant@58.146.97.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:18 < wrtp> you have to cope with \" 14:19 < ahihi> a pushdown automaton maybe? 14:21 < wrtp> i'd just code it - it'll only be about 5 lines of code 14:22 -!- kmeyer [~konrad@fedora/kmeyer] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:23 -!- analogue [~analogue@toulouse.jfg-networks.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:23 < no_mind> ahihi, that is my question, how do I code the push down automata in GO 14:25 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-79-179-21-193.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:25 -!- m1ndwarp [~m1ndwarp@xdsl-78-35-152-125.netcologne.de] has joined #go-nuts 14:25 < Sindikat> uriel: awesome, thank you very much! i've found: http://github.com/rsaarelm/teratogen 14:25 -!- mennis_ [~mennis@adsl-065-012-170-146.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:26 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-109-66-49-66.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:27 < plexdev> http://is.gd/9XxVO by [Adam Langley] in go/src/pkg/crypto/rsa/ -- crypto/rsa: don't use safe primes. 14:28 -!- analogue [~analogue@toulouse.jfg-networks.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:30 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-109-66-49-66.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:39 < wrtp> no_mind: something like this should work ok. http://paste.lisp.org/display/96100 14:40 < wrtp> there are other ways of doing it 14:40 -!- GabydeWilde_ [~gabydewil@84-104-135-141.cable.quicknet.nl] has left #go-nuts ["http://blog.go-here.nl"] 14:44 < wrtp> no_mind: was that the kind of thing you were trying to do? 14:47 < no_mind> wrtp, looking at code 14:48 -!- kmeyer [~konrad@homer23.u.washington.edu] has joined #go-nuts 14:48 -!- kmeyer [~konrad@homer23.u.washington.edu] has quit [Changing host] 14:48 -!- kmeyer [~konrad@fedora/kmeyer] has joined #go-nuts 14:48 < wrtp> no_mind: here' 14:49 < wrtp> s another version: http://paste.lisp.org/+225G/1 14:49 < no_mind> wrtp, thanxs, got it working 14:50 -!- asmo [~asmo@c-f6c5e055.1155-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #go-nuts 14:50 < wrtp> (NB. the second version only works because strings are utf-8 encoded) 14:52 -!- gnuvince_ [~vince@64.235.204.246] has joined #go-nuts 14:55 -!- gnuvince [~vince@206.71-ppp.3menatwork.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:08 -!- mennis_ [~mennis@adsl-065-012-170-146.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has left #go-nuts [] 15:08 -!- ericvh [~ericvh@32.97.110.63] has joined #go-nuts 15:09 -!- fusion44 [~quassel@p5B2832DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 15:11 -!- cbeck [~cbeck@c-67-170-181-181.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:15 -!- bmm [~bram@office.ytec.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:17 -!- mssm [~mssm@ip-95-221-117-29.bb.netbynet.ru] has joined #go-nuts 15:17 -!- asmo [~asmo@c-f6c5e055.1155-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:17 -!- asmo [~asmo@c-f6c5e055.1155-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #go-nuts 15:22 -!- pshahmumbai [~prashant@58.146.97.236] has joined #go-nuts 15:27 -!- kaigan|work [~kaigan@c-8290e255.1411-10-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: kaigan|work] 15:33 -!- kaib [~kaib@cs78210195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #go-nuts 15:34 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v kaib] by ChanServ 15:39 -!- kssreeram [~kssreeram@122.174.70.202] has joined #go-nuts 15:40 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has joined #go-nuts 15:41 -!- hstimer [~hstimer@2002:62ea:197d:0:226:bbff:fe05:dd9b] has quit [Quit: hstimer] 15:46 -!- The_Cog [~chatzilla@i-195-137-123-15.freedom2surf.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:00 -!- DerHorst [~Horst@e176096008.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 16:01 -!- kaib [~kaib@cs78210195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: kaib] 16:05 -!- sea-gull [2059@friedman.ivoltaire.org] has joined #go-nuts 16:07 -!- DerHorst [~Horst@e176096008.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has quit [Quit: path[l]] 16:08 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has joined #go-nuts 16:10 -!- sea-gull [2059@friedman.ivoltaire.org] has left #go-nuts [] 16:13 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-69-107-82-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:14 -!- hcatlin [~hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has joined #go-nuts 16:16 -!- DerHorst [~Horst@e176096008.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 16:19 -!- kaib [~kaib@cs78210195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #go-nuts 16:19 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v kaib] by ChanServ 16:21 -!- crashR [~crasher@codextreme.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:26 -!- trickie [~trickie@94.100.112.225] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:31 -!- erus` [~chatzilla@mailgate.ips-international.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31 -!- CodeBlock [~CodeBlock@about/windows/regular/CodeBlock] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:32 -!- cbeck [~cbeck@c-67-170-181-181.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:36 -!- CodeBlock [~CodeBlock@about/windows/regular/CodeBlock] has joined #go-nuts 16:41 -!- hstimer [~hstimer@2002:465a:aa25:0:226:bbff:fe05:dd9b] has joined #go-nuts 16:43 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-69-107-82-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: rhelmer] 16:47 -!- bortzmeyer [~bortzmeye@batilda.nic.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:53 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@adsl-99-3-159-249.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:55 -!- nanoo [~nano@95-89-189-46-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:59 -!- rup [Rupert@deathcoil.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:00 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has quit [Quit: path[l]] 17:00 -!- rup [Rupert@deathcoil.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:03 -!- erus` [~chatzilla@cpc2-gill2-0-0-cust265.basl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:06 -!- ampleyfly [~ampleyfly@c-4d8fe555.09-36-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #go-nuts 17:06 < ampleyfly> so I'm wondering if there's a way to get the size of an int 17:11 -!- erus` [~chatzilla@cpc2-gill2-0-0-cust265.basl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:14 <+kaib> ampleyfly: why would you be interested in the size? 17:14 < wrtp> x := int(-1) 17:14 < wrtp> fmt.Printf("%x\n", (uint(x) >> 1)) 17:14 -!- pshahmumbai [~prashant@58.146.97.236] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:14 < wrtp> or did you mean the size in bytes? 17:15 < wrtp> oh actually, fmt.Printf("%d\n", ~0) will do 17:15 < wrtp> i mean ^0 of course 17:16 < wrtp> hmm, no it doesn't 17:16 < ampleyfly> kaib: I want to use int/uint instead of explicitly specifying the sizes, but I still need to know when I do some bit manipulation 17:17 -!- Chryson [~Chryson@pool-71-162-43-17.altnpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:17 <+iant> you can use unsafe.Sizeof 17:17 <+iant> but I would recommend using the explicit int sizes 17:18 -!- rup [Rupert@deathcoil.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:19 -!- erus` [~chatzilla@cpc2-gill2-0-0-cust265.basl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:19 < ampleyfly> hrm, oh well 17:20 < ampleyfly> why is sizeof considered to "step around the type safety"? 17:20 -!- Sindikat [~username@95.56.45.219] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:21 < wrtp> ampleyfly: why not just use int32? 17:21 < ampleyfly> I figured it would be nice to use 64 bits if it was available 17:21 < wrtp> it's always available... 17:21 <+iant> abstractly, types just represent sets of values, and the size is irrelevant 17:21 < JBeshir> Both are always available. 17:22 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@adsl-99-3-159-249.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Venom_X] 17:22 < ampleyfly> well, int and uint have implementation-specific sizes, probably picked for some reason 17:22 -!- crakrjak [~merc@rrcs-70-62-156-154.central.biz.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:23 < ampleyfly> but maybe it doesn't make much of a difference 17:23 < wrtp> iant: but i can see ampleyfly's point, to an extent - some bit manipulation operations require knowing the size of a type; i can't really see why there's not a constant defining the size of a given implementations int and float types. 17:24 <+iant> for cases where you need to know the size of type, use the types with explicit sizes 17:24 <+iant> for those very odd cases where you can't, there is unsafe.Sizeof 17:24 <+iant> don't avoid the explicitly sized types for efficiency reasons, it's extremely unlikely to make any actual difference 17:24 < ct529> hi! I am a go newbie .... I would like to move some statistical software I have written in R to the go language .... can I ask some questions? 17:24 < wrtp> iant: but presumably the sizes of int and uint are chosen for efficiency on the given implementation, so it would make sense to use them 17:25 <+iant> it makes sense to use them when the size doesn't matter 17:25 <+iant> because it saves you having to think about the size 17:25 <+iant> ct529: you can just ask, you don't need to ask whether you can ask 17:27 < ct529> iant: I have really three questions: (1) is there a very very simple example of a "parallell" program in go, that uses several cpus to make a vector / matrix calculation, for example using for cycle? 17:27 < wrtp> sometimes the interface is defined using ints (e.g. sort.IntArray), but internally the size might matter for some algorithm 17:27 < ampleyfly> so I would prefer using int and uint for the most part, but in this specific bit manipulation part of the program I really need to know the size, do i use uint32 for the parameters and cast the actual arguments, or do i use uint for the parameters and do the casting inside the function? 17:27 < ct529> iant: I have read the available documentation, but hardly understood anything .... :( 17:27 < ampleyfly> I mean conversion, of course. 17:28 < wrtp> ampleyfly: i think you're better to use uint32 for the parameters 17:28 <+iant> ct529: I don't know; there is http://code.google.com/p/gomatrix/ but I don't know how parallel it is 17:28 <+iant> there are many packages listed at http://go-lang.cat-v.org/ 17:29 < wrtp> ampleyfly: ... but given you're guaranteed 32 bits, you might just use int/uint and cast it inside 17:29 < ct529> iant: I thought go lang was ideal for using more than one core / cpu, but I am finding it hard to understand exactly how? 17:29 < ampleyfly> it would save the ugly conversions in every call 17:29 <+iant> ct529: Go makes it very easy to start a new function running on a separate CPU, using the go statement 17:30 < wrtp> ampleyfly: yes, particularly if you're using e.g. []int 17:30 < ct529> iant: but I have read the documentation available on the website and did not understand really .... 17:30 < ct529> iant: how does that help to split the computational load .... 17:31 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@adsl-99-3-159-249.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:32 <+iant> ct529: I'm not sure how to answer that; there are many variables, but in general if you can do work in parallel, your program will run faster if you do the parallel work on separate CPUS 17:32 <+iant> because then the parallel work can be done in, well, parallel 17:32 <+iant> what sort of answer are you looking for? 17:32 < ct529> iant: yes, I know that! :D .... I mean how to implent it in go .... 17:32 <+iant> using the go statement 17:33 <+iant> did you read the "Effective Go" document on the golang.org web site? 17:33 < ct529> iant: for a simple example: if you have a for cycle that simply sums two number and runs 10000 times .... you can just split it is two and then puts things together at the end 17:33 < ct529> iant: yes 17:33 <+iant> ct529: yes 17:33 < wrtp> ct529: func count(n big) {for j := 0; j < n; j++){}} func main(){go count(0xffffffffffff); go count(0xffffffffffff)} 17:33 < ct529> iant: did not understand a thing .... I think it has been written with different people in mind 17:34 <+iant> ct529: it's definitely aimed at experienced programmers; wrtp just gave you an example of the go statement 17:34 < ct529> iant: exactly .... can I say I did not understand a thing again? 17:34 -!- kaib_ [~kaib@cs78242103.pp.htv.fi] has joined #go-nuts 17:34 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v kaib_] by ChanServ 17:34 -!- kaib [~kaib@cs78210195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: kaib] 17:35 < ct529> iant: I would say I am quite experienced .... R, java, php .... but I am finding the language very difficult 17:35 < wrtp> ct529: that example starts two independent functions, each counting up to a large number. on two processors, it'll run twice as fast. 17:35 -!- nanoo [~nano@95-89-189-46-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 17:35 < wrtp> ct529: where do you get to in the Effective Go document before you stop understanding it? 17:36 < ct529> wrtp: wait 17:36 < ampleyfly> while I'm in here, why do files created by go have no permissions set and how do I change this? 17:36 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@adsl-99-3-159-249.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:36 < ct529> wrtp: I had serious problems with slices (and maps) 17:36 < wrtp> ampleyfly: by the tool set (e.g. 8g) or by your go program? 17:36 <+iant> ampleyfly: the mode of the file is the third argument to os.Open when using os.O_CREATE 17:37 < ampleyfly> wrtp: by my program 17:37 < ct529> wrtp: and then Concurrency is really impossible for me 17:37 < ct529> wrtp: (the chapter Concurrency) 17:37 <+iant> ct529: can you ask specific questions? it's hard to answer in general 17:37 < wrtp> ct529: slices are just arrays 17:38 < wrtp> ct529: they're distinguished in Go from arrays because they carry their length around with them 17:38 < wrtp> ct529: and they're passed by reference, not value. i.e. if i do: x := []int{3,5,6}; y := x; y[0] = 99; 17:39 < wrtp> ct529 then x[0] is also 99 17:39 < ct529> iant: it is very specific .... you have a for cycle, that sums 10000 times (x1+x2+x3+x4 .....+ x10000). You want to split the load equally on two cpus and then put the entire things together. 17:39 < wrtp> ct529: whereas if i do x := [3]int{3,5,6}; y := x; y[0] = 99 17:39 < wrtp> ct529: then x[0] is unchanged 17:40 < wrtp> ct529: then write a function that can do half the work 17:40 < ampleyfly> iant: oh right, thanks 17:40 < wrtp> ct529: start it going twice 17:40 < ampleyfly> wrtp: and thank you too 17:40 < ct529> wrtp: so slices are like linked arrays? 17:40 < wrtp> ct529: get the results 17:40 <+iant> ct529: func sum(a []int, start, end int) int { sum := 0; for i := start; i < end; i++ { sum += a[i] } return sum } 17:40 < wrtp> ct529: and add 'em up 17:41 < m1ndwarp> ct529: you can imagine slices like things, that point to parts of arrays and being useable like arrays for practical reasons 17:41 -!- remote [~remote@unaffiliated/remote] has joined #go-nuts 17:41 < ct529> wrtp: iant: it was only an example I wanted to use for studying the go command and aprallel execution .... that is what I want to understand 17:41 <+iant> actually I need a channel to really make it work 17:41 < ct529> m1ndwarp: so they are like "slices of arrays"? 17:41 <+iant> and I don't really need begin and end 17:42 <+iant> so how about 17:42 < m1ndwarp> yes :D 17:42 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has joined #go-nuts 17:42 <+iant> func sum(a []int, c chan int) { sum := 0; for _, v := range a { sum += v }; c <- sum } 17:42 < ct529> m1ndwarp: and why can they be linked together, whilst arrays cannot? 17:42 <+iant> then you can write 17:43 < m1ndwarp> ct529: as far as I know, they can't 17:43 < m1ndwarp> you can let a slice be a slice of another slice 17:43 <+iant> var c1, c2 chan int; go sum(a[0:5000], c1); go sum(a[5001:], c2); return <-c1 + <-c2 17:43 < m1ndwarp> which is slice of an array 17:43 < m1ndwarp> if you mean that 17:43 < ct529> m1ndwarp: oh .... a slice of the same size? 17:43 < m1ndwarp> same or bigger 17:44 < wrtp> c := make(chan int); go sum(a[0:5000], c); go sum(a[5001:], c); return <-c + <-c 17:44 < m1ndwarp> that's very useful if you divide a problem to goroutines 17:44 < m1ndwarp> in a tree structure 17:44 < ct529> iant: oh .... I begin to understand .... so how does the function know the two gos have finished? 17:44 < wrtp> no need to use to channels, and they need to be made first 17:44 < wrtp> s/to/two/ 17:44 <+iant> wrtp: yes, thanks 17:44 < m1ndwarp> ct529: I would synchronize through a simple channel 17:44 <+iant> ct529: the sum function sends the sum on a channel when it is done 17:45 <+iant> the caller receives the values when they are ready 17:45 < ct529> m1ndwarp: I have seriously difficulty in udnestanding the concept of channel .... 17:45 < m1ndwarp> ct529: it's like a fifo buffer 17:45 < wrtp> ct529: slices are exactly "slices of arrays" 17:45 < m1ndwarp> you put a value in, and receive it on the other side 17:45 < ct529> m1ndwarp: so channels are like "separate enclosed threads" that run on sperate cpus? 17:45 < ampleyfly> can I do static variables in functions, or is global variables the only way? 17:46 <+iant> no, a channel is not a thread 17:46 < m1ndwarp> if buffer size is 0, then the sender and receiver wait, until there is sent or received something 17:46 <+iant> a channel is a buffer 17:46 < m1ndwarp> no, they're a data structure 17:46 < wrtp> ct529: channels are like a postage system - you post a value in and you can receive the value the other end 17:46 <+iant> ampleyfly: there is no equivalent to C-like function-static variables, although you can closures to get an approximation of them 17:46 <+iant> channels are like a Unix pipe 17:46 < wrtp> ct529: except that you use the same channel for both receiving and sending 17:47 < m1ndwarp> they don't run... only when one thread writes to a channel whose buffer is full, will yield and return when another thread received on that channel 17:47 < ct529> but if a channel is just a buffer, what is the use in parallel processing? 17:47 <+iant> they give you a way to transmit a value from one thread to another 17:47 < m1ndwarp> ct529: message passing 17:47 <+iant> the very question you just asked a moment ago 17:47 < m1ndwarp> very basic parallel processing concept :) 17:47 < wrtp> ct529: channels are the glue that binds the parallel threads together 17:47 < m1ndwarp> for synchronisation 17:47 < ct529> from the doc I udnerstood they were like the "place" where the parallel functions were executed .... 17:47 < m1ndwarp> you have shared memory and message passing, go can do both and for message passing it uses channels 17:47 <+iant> no 17:48 < wrtp> ct529: they're an incredibly useful primitive operation, and one on which it's easy to build lots of things 17:48 < wrtp> ct529: channels are just a way to pass values around in a thread-safe manner 17:49 < ampleyfly> why am I allowed to have unused functions, but not unused variables? 17:49 < ct529> wrtp: so going back to the example of the sum .... I create a channel for each go call to function (each one executed on a different CPU) and then I collect the output at the end and sum them together? 17:49 < wrtp> ct529: the code ian posted earlier does it 17:49 < ct529> wrtp: yes, exactly .... that is what I am trying to understand 17:49 <+iant> ct529: you don't actually need to create a different channel for each call, you can reuse the same channel 17:50 <+iant> but, otherwise, yes 17:50 < wrtp> ct529: and you can use the same channel because you don't care what order your addition is performed 17:50 < ct529> wrtp: so I do not need to create a different channel .... 17:50 <+iant> ampleyfly: unused variables can indicate a program error in use of :=, unused functions are harmless (and are discarded by the linker) 17:50 < ct529> wrtp: when do I need to create a channel? 17:50 < wrtp> ct529: for non-commutative operation, you'd need a channel for each process 17:50 < m1ndwarp> ct529: that's a question of design 17:50 -!- gidler [jmaatta@lakka.kapsi.fi] has left #go-nuts [] 17:50 < wrtp> ct529: you need to "make" a channel before you can use it 17:51 < ampleyfly> iant: is there a way to get around the first short of commenting the variables out/using _? 17:51 <+iant> no, those are the only ways 17:51 < ct529> wrtp: so where does the code that iant send create the channel? 17:51 < wrtp> ct529: but if you're asking when to use a channel, it's like asking when to use an array, or a linked-list... 17:52 < m1ndwarp> ct529: just remember that there is no implicit possibility for the receiver to find out where the message in the channel came from 17:52 < wrtp> ct529: did you see my code below ian's? 17:52 <+iant> ct529: I forgot to do that, see the note by wrtp 17:52 < wrtp> ct529; ian's code didn't create the channel - mine did 17:52 < m1ndwarp> either there is only one sender or it has to be sent be sent explicitly through a struct which the channel is typed of 17:52 < ct529> wrtp: oh I see .... the non cmmutative bit I mean .... so if the operation is non commutative I have to open the n channels and then wait at the end that all the operation finish and then put it together .... 17:52 < wrtp> c := make(chan int); go sum(a[0:5000], c); go sum(a[5001:], c); return <-c + <-c 17:53 < m1ndwarp> or the order has to be made clear by control flow (like consumer producer processes) 17:53 < wrtp> ct529: there are other approaches too. it's called fold in some languages (reduce in others) 17:53 < ct529> wrtp: thanks 17:53 -!- Macpunk [~macpunk@2002:48b1:1add:0:eee:e6ff:fec7:7eaa] has joined #go-nuts 17:54 < wrtp> oh, and actually it should be: c := make(chan int); go sum(a[0:5000], c); go sum(a[5000:], c); return <-c + <-c 17:54 < ct529> wrtp: is it compulsory the creation of the channel, for commutative functions? or is it created automatically? 17:54 -!- Xera^ [~brit@87-194-208-246.bethere.co.uk] has joined #go-nuts 17:54 < wrtp> note that a[0:5000] does not include the 5000th element 17:54 < ct529> wrtp: does not? 17:54 < wrtp> ct529: indeed. a[0:0] is a zero length slice 17:55 < wrtp> ct529: a[0:len(a)] is the whole array 17:55 <+iant> ct529: if you want a channel, you have to call make to get it 17:55 < wrtp> a[len(a)] is a bounds error 17:56 < ct529> wrtp: oh .... can I run the code on two (or more) CPUs without creating a channel? 17:56 < wrtp> ct529: your best bet is to play around with a very simple go program, and see what's going on 17:56 <+iant> ct529: yes, you can use the go statement without creating a channel 17:56 < wrtp> ct529: you can - but you'll have difficulty coordinating the different parts of the code 17:56 <+iant> ct529: but then you can't safely aggregate the results 17:56 < ct529> wrtp: yes, that is exactly what I wanted to do .... but I got stuck .... 17:57 < wrtp> ct529: why don't you take ian's code and run it? 17:57 < ct529> wrtp: thanks a lot for the code you passed me .... those are very good very simple example .... why don't you add them to the documentation? 17:57 < ct529> thanks also to iant 17:57 < wrtp> ct529: note that if you really want it to run on >1 processor, you need to set GOMAXPROCS 17:58 <+iant> I think if you go back to the docs now you will find them much clearer 17:58 < ct529> iant: not really .... :) .... I finally understood them here .... I could not really make sense of the documentation sorry! 17:59 < ct529> wrtp: GOMAXPROCS .... thanks .... 17:59 -!- wrtp [~rog@89.241.130.254] has quit [Quit: wrtp] 17:59 < ct529> wrtp: by the way, would that work only on cores on the same machine or also on CPUs spread on more machines? and what about GPU cores? 18:00 < ct529> iant: but it could also be all the explanations you, m1ndwarp, wrtp put together .... but I finally made sense of it! 18:00 < ct529> thanks a lot 18:01 -!- verma [~verma@173-21-32-42.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:02 -!- iant [~iant@adsl-71-133-8-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:05 -!- iant [~iant@adsl-71-133-8-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:05 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v iant] by ChanServ 18:05 -!- Chryson [~Chryson@pool-71-162-43-17.altnpa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:06 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has joined #go-nuts 18:08 -!- bmm [~bram@195-240-186-6.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #go-nuts 18:10 -!- path[l]_ [UPP@120.138.102.34] has joined #go-nuts 18:12 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:14 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@38.112.6.110] has joined #go-nuts 18:14 -!- nanoo [~nano@95-89-189-46-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:15 -!- ak2 [~ak2@c-24-6-88-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:15 -!- General1337 [~support@71-84-247-187.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 18:16 < anticw> iant: has there been and discussion on idiomatic behavior for code that returns a result and an error/EOF ? 18:19 -!- General13372 [~support@71-84-247-187.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:20 <+iant> anticw: as you know many functions return a real value and also an os.Error value; I think that is fairly idiomatic at this point 18:23 < anticw> iant: yes, and looking at callers *most* seem to accept you can get say, useful data + EOF 18:24 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@d64-180-45-230.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:24 < anticw> iant: basically, doing n, err := foo.Read() if err != nil { break } 18:24 < anticw> is a bug 18:24 < anticw> i would argue 18:25 < anticw> (well, depending on the surrounding code, but to discard the result on error/EOF is a bug) 18:30 -!- path[l]_ [UPP@120.138.102.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:31 -!- AlbertDS [~AlbertDS@80.229.91.29] has joined #go-nuts 18:32 -!- bmm [~bram@195-240-186-6.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:39 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has joined #go-nuts 18:40 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@38.112.6.110] has quit [Quit: rhelmer] 18:43 -!- idr0 [~idr0@e179146080.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 18:44 -!- rup [Rupert@deathcoil.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:47 -!- illya77 [~illya77@74-60-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:47 < ct529> iant 18:49 -!- m1ndwarp [~m1ndwarp@xdsl-78-35-152-125.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:51 -!- erus` [~chatzilla@cpc2-gill2-0-0-cust265.basl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:51 -!- c0nfl|ct [tiago@89.214.152.160] has joined #go-nuts 18:53 < ct529> iant: what am I doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/391219/ 18:54 -!- franksalim [~frank@adsl-75-61-84-181.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:55 -!- rup [Rupert@deathcoil.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:55 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-71-139-219-78.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:56 -!- m1ndwarp [~m1ndwarp@xdsl-78-35-132-26.netcologne.de] has joined #go-nuts 18:56 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 18:58 < ct529> m1ndwarp: can I disturb you again? I wrote that http://paste.ubuntu.com/391219/, but it does not seem to work 18:58 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has joined #go-nuts 19:00 < ct529> m1ndwarp: so it returns results but the results are some strange numbers which looks very much like addresses .... and the order of execution of the sum is completely random .... 19:04 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:04 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@enginey-9.border1.sfo002.pnap.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:06 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has joined #go-nuts 19:06 -!- Macpunk [~macpunk@2002:48b1:1add:0:eee:e6ff:fec7:7eaa] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:06 < ct529> m1ndwarp: if I remove parallization it works 19:08 < cbeck> FYI, http://paste.pocoo.org/ has go syntax hilighting, first pastebin I've found 19:10 < ct529> I do not understand ... it throws a panic .... and it says all the go routines are asleep ... 19:11 <+iant> ct529: you never read the values from the channels 19:11 <+iant> you need to write fmt.Print(<-c1, <-c2, "\n") 19:11 < ct529> iant: yes, I nderstood it and already changed it .... 19:11 <+iant> ok 19:11 < ct529> iant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/391228/ 19:12 < ct529> iant: it throws a panic .... 19:12 -!- ak2 [~ak2@c-24-6-88-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:12 < ct529> iant: throw: all goroutines are asleep - deadlock! 19:12 < ct529> panic PC=0x7f040b1d3030 .... 19:14 <+iant> in that program you are reading from the channels twice 19:14 <+iant> the first time reads the values 19:14 <+iant> the second time waits for more values to be written to the channels 19:15 <+iant> change line 39 to fmt.Print(result, "\n") 19:15 <+iant> (you could write that as fmt.Println(result), by the way) 19:17 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has joined #go-nuts 19:18 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has quit [Client Quit] 19:18 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has joined #go-nuts 19:18 -!- ak2 [~ak2@nat/cisco/x-qhnsxburuvlpooao] has joined #go-nuts 19:19 < ct529> iant: thanks a lot .... 19:21 < ct529> iant: so what was happening here is that when I wrote the second<-c I was calling the channel again .... 19:21 -!- bmm [~bram@82-169-1-45.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #go-nuts 19:21 <+iant> you were trying to read another value from the channel 19:21 < ct529> iant: I see ..., so once I have read it, I have actually remove dit from the channel .... is that right? 19:22 -!- iant [~iant@adsl-71-133-8-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:22 -!- iant [~iant@adsl-71-133-8-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:22 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v iant] by ChanServ 19:22 -!- bortzmeyer [~stephane@2a01:e35:8bd9:8bb0:d1e6:4c27:1e2d:7f97] has joined #go-nuts 19:22 -!- Cyprien__ [Cyprien@140-106.107-92.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #go-nuts 19:22 <+iant> sorry, something is really wrong with the latest Debian pidgin update 19:22 -!- idr0 [~idr0@e179146080.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #go-nuts [] 19:22 <+iant> a channel is a pipe: you write data in, and you read data out 19:23 < ct529> iant: so once I have read it, I have actually emptied it 19:24 <+iant> yes, once you read a value it is no longer there 19:24 <+iant> just like a pipe 19:25 < ct529> thanks a lot .... do I actually have to open at least a channel for each CPU? 19:25 -!- anticw [~anticw@c-67-169-41-113.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:25 -!- anticw [~anticw@c-67-169-41-113.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:25 <+iant> ct529: no, you only need a single channel 19:25 < ct529> iant: oh .... so my code is actually crap 19:26 < ct529> iant: I am not really executing on separate CPUs 19:26 -!- Cyprien_ [Cyprien@74-12.79-83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:26 <+iant> you are, assuming your system has multiple CPUs 19:26 < ct529> iant: yes it has two cores. So I added the line runtime.GOMAXPROCS(NCPU) where NCPU=2 19:27 < ct529> iant: but where does it says that I am actually using two cpus? 19:27 <+iant> that is all you need to do to schedule your goroutines onto two CPUs 19:28 < ct529> iant: oh .... so if I move onto a larger system with like 8 cpus, I do not have to change anything and the routine uses them all? 19:28 <+iant> the routine as written isn't going to use more than 2 19:28 <+iant> you only start two goroutines 19:28 <+iant> Go does not automatically parallelize loops, it gives you tools to parallelize them yourself 19:28 <+iant> Automatic parallelization would be cool, but there is no support for it at present 19:29 < ct529> iant: sorry .... you are right .... could I have sent both go routines on the same channel? 19:29 <+iant> you could have passed the same channel as an argument to both goroutines 19:29 < ct529> iant: oh .... so am I gaining anything by having two channels? 19:30 <+iant> no 19:30 <+iant> not in this program, anyhow 19:31 < ct529> iant: is it possible to detect the number of CPUs available from with go? 19:31 < ct529> s/with/within/ sorry 19:31 <+iant> There might be a way but I don't know it offhand 19:32 < ct529> iant: thanks a lot for all your help .... I have finally understood the very basics .... 19:32 <+iant> you're welcome 19:34 < ct529> iant: see you later .... I will spend more time on it tomorrow 19:34 < ct529> iant: time for some dinner! 19:34 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 19:35 < ct529> bye 19:35 -!- ct529 [~quassel@77-44-78-159.xdsl.murphx.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:36 -!- m1ndwarp [~m1ndwarp@xdsl-78-35-132-26.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: m1ndwarp] 19:37 < exch> is there some reason why the go compiler (6g) would fail on an import statement with this: "syntax error: unexpected name, expecting literal"? I'm absolutely sure the syntax is correct. The only thing I can think of is that it can't find the package, eventhough I explicitely made sure it exists in the Go pkg dir 19:37 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has joined #go-nuts 19:37 < exch> a file permission issue for the package file perhaps? 19:38 -!- verma [~verma@173-21-32-42.client.mchsi.com] has joined #go-nuts 19:39 < exch> it's also only 2 specific packages it fails on 19:39 * exch puzzeled 19:47 -!- AlbertDS [~AlbertDS@80.229.91.29] has quit [Quit: AlbertDS] 19:50 -!- c0nfl|ct [tiago@89.214.152.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:55 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 19:59 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has joined #go-nuts 19:59 -!- jhnx [~bd730cde@gateway/web/freenode/x-mymoktoibzabnoay] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:02 -!- g0bl1n [~anonymous@a213-22-200-76.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Quit: g0bl1n] 20:08 -!- V1psta [seal45@RGREENHAGEN-XFX.suites.osuit.edu] has joined #go-nuts 20:08 -!- nanoo 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sample code on how to use crypto/tls.Client? 21:48 < uriel> mrd`: I think there is, grep probably can easily answer where ;) 21:49 < uriel> (the test suite is qiute complete and also can be a source of very simple examples) 21:49 < uriel> (speaking in general about Go, not looked into the tls code) 21:50 < mrd`> uriel: The only .go files in the go distribution that contain both the strings "tls" and "Client" are within src/pkg/crypto/tls. 21:50 -!- alkavan_ [~alkavan@87.68.253.130.adsl.012.net.il] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:51 -!- alkavan_ [~alkavan@77.124.79.177] has joined #go-nuts 21:52 < mrd`> Though I did at least find how to create a test tls Config object, so maybe that will help me advance a little further. 21:52 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 21:55 -!- gisikw [~gisikw@137.28.186.120] has joined #go-nuts 21:57 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has joined #go-nuts 22:02 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has quit 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