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allowed. it's one for loop and two switch statements, one for reading from stdin and writing to socket, and one for reading from socket and writing to stdout. simple client. 07:34 < nocturnal> anyways, i'm out, bbl. 07:34 -!- ayo [~nya@f051081028.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: EXEC_over.METHOD_SUBLIMATION] 07:55 -!- gussing [~gussing@58.33.1.80] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:00 -!- bechmoul [~joel@lolnet.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:03 -!- xenor [~xenor@p4FE4DF97.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:17 -!- SecretAgent [sa@quake.nitemare.name] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:26 -!- gnuvince_ [~vince@70.35.168.167] has joined #go-nuts 08:29 -!- SecretAgent [sa@98.143.158.8] has joined #go-nuts 08:29 -!- gnuvince [~vince@70.35.165.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:34 -!- bechmoul_ [~joel@lolnet.org] has joined #go-nuts 08:36 -!- bechmoul_ [~joel@lolnet.org] has left #go-nuts [] 08:37 -!- bechmoul 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into a go regexp? 12:41 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 12:52 -!- marsu [~marsu@17.78.202-77.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:54 -!- fluffle [~camelid@s.pl0rt.org] has joined #go-nuts 12:58 -!- SecretofMana [~mana@142.46.164.30] has joined #go-nuts 13:07 -!- rlab_ [~Miranda@38-204-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:08 -!- gnuvince [~vince@70.35.166.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:08 -!- rlab [~Miranda@38-204-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:09 -!- rlab_ [~Miranda@38-204-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:09 -!- rlab [~Miranda@38-204-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:10 -!- gnuvince [~vince@70.35.167.215] has joined #go-nuts 13:13 -!- Nitro [~nitro@208.92.17.21] has joined #go-nuts 13:16 -!- drry [~drry@unaffiliated/drry] has joined #go-nuts 13:18 -!- GilJ [~gilles@85.10.77.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:19 < exch> you can't. it doesn't have no-greedy matches yet 13:19 < exch> *non 13:20 -!- pdusen [~pdusen@crob4-55.flint.umich.edu] has joined #go-nuts 13:26 -!- zyichi [~zyichi@125.39.68.205] has joined #go-nuts 13:27 -!- bert2_ [~IceChat7@p4FDCBD2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:29 -!- bert2 [~IceChat7@p4FDCBD2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:29 -!- John_Joyus [~satya@CPE00095b72e567-CM0018c0d9e67e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #go-nuts 13:31 -!- Xera^ [~brit@87-194-208-246.bethere.co.uk] has joined #go-nuts 13:36 -!- melba [~blee@unaffiliated/lazz0] has joined #go-nuts 13:44 -!- XenoPhoenix [~Xeno@cpc5-aztw24-2-0-cust39.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:51 -!- rlab [~Miranda@38-204-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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love what your doing 22:18 < exch> does fmt.xPrintf have some kind of an option to truncate floats to N number of decimal points? 22:19 < taruti> exch: e.g. %2.2f does not work? 22:19 < exch> ah it does 22:19 < exch> nice 22:22 -!- General1337 [~support@71-93-97-216.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 22:26 -!- General13372 [~support@71-93-97-216.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:28 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.220.115] has joined #go-nuts 22:29 -!- Fraeon_ [~kzer-za@e212-246-65-153.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #go-nuts 22:32 < uriel> god, why wont people stop feeding the troll? 22:35 -!- ejrock [~chatzilla@cpe-66-65-156-121.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 22:39 < Archwyrm> uriel: Are you suggesting just letting someone on the internet be *wrong*?!? 22:39 < uriel> Archwyrm: but he is not even wrong! 22:40 < Archwyrm> Oh, that's the worst kind of troll then, heh. 22:40 < uriel> exactly! 22:56 -!- ShadowIce 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That would make python and ruby bad first languages as well. 23:23 < stage2> ROFL uriel 23:24 < stage2> thats why all the os's are soo insecure and badly written 23:24 < uriel> K&R is also without question one of the best programming books ever written 23:24 < stage2> cause of kids like you who like books written by engineers instead of programmers with years expeience 23:24 * uriel facepalms 23:24 < uriel> ok, you are not even wrong, so no point arguing 23:25 < Archwyrm> stage2: If anything a large standard library is extremely helpful. I've always thought it was cruel to make beginners iterate over character arrays to anything useful with strings. =P 23:25 < stage2> Archwyrm: true , thats why ruby is a pretty decent start 23:25 < stage2> but then again, once you know c/asm , you can pretty much pick up anything 23:25 < stage2> with ruby youve only learned how to use a c program 23:26 < Archwyrm> stage2: Yeah, so what is wrong with learning Go first? 23:26 < stage2> your will be stuck looking at other language wondering what they were thinking when they wrote them 23:26 < Archwyrm> True, assuming the person learning c/asm hasn't given up. =) 23:26 < Archwyrm> haha, I see. 23:27 < stage2> i learned from basic asm, shellcode and simple c libs, then picked up ruby after i got lost trying to figure out multi-dimensional arrays 23:27 < stage2> also getting away from k&r was awesome 23:27 < Archwyrm> I think that all the time at my day job.. *cough* C++ & C# *cough* 23:27 < stage2> programming in c 3rd edition was great 23:28 < uriel> c++ damages the brain 23:28 < stage2> i dont do much c++ but it seems to be only good for physics or crypto 23:29 < uriel> it is only good for creating jobs: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/I_did_it_for_you_all 23:29 < stage2> lol 23:32 < stage2> ive seen alot more c# jobs than c++ 23:40 -!- Fraeon [~kzer-za@e212-246-65-153.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: Fraeon] 23:43 < Archwyrm> uriel: Yep, that's a classic. =) 23:44 < Archwyrm> stage2: I don't think that says much about the language or .NET framework, but more about MS's marketing success. =P 23:49 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@62.176.237.78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:50 -!- Fraeon [~kzer-za@e212-246-65-153.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #go-nuts 23:54 < stage2> yeah ms will have to pay for it though 23:54 < stage2> the more popular they get, the more lawsuits they get, the more piracy, the more viruses 23:55 < Ender2070> [19:28] <stage2> i learned from basic asm, shellcode and simple c libs, then picked up ruby after i got lost trying to figure out multi-dimensional arrays 23:55 < stage2> :) 23:55 < Ender2070> stage2 - well my multi-dimensional arrays own you 23:56 < stage2> until i got overflowed and pointed to my fav shellcode 23:56 -!- ejrock [~chatzilla@cpe-66-65-156-121.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #go-nuts [] 23:57 < stage2> it* 23:57 < exch> uriel: is that interview with Bjarne Stroustrup for real? 23:58 < Ender2070> exch - fake 23:58 < exch> shame 23:58 < Ender2070> at least according to Bjarne 23:58 < exch> hmm. that still leaves it open for questioning then :p 23:59 < Ender2070> possibly but its rather off the top 23:59 < exch> I kinda hope it is. This has to be the single biggest troll in the history of trolling 23:59 < stage2> if its real it should be listed here --- Log closed Sun Apr 18 00:00:00 2010