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00:38 < plexdev> http://is.gd/d6VMe by [Ken Thompson] in go/src/cmd/gc/ --
optimization of static initialization
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00:48 < nsf> I think I've fixed the bug
00:48 < nsf> omg
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00:59 < jessta> nsf: bug?.
01:00 < nsf> jessta: yep
01:00 < nsf> http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=886
01:00 < nsf> 7-8 hours of debugging :)
01:00 < nsf> the result of 7-8 hours of debugging :)*
01:03 < nsf> maybe (maybe, if it's a fix at all) it will solve other issues
with crashes
01:04 < nsf> because basically what happens is that there is a fail
assumption that GC runs only when single thread is awake, but that case is only
connected to LockOSThread behaviour
01:06 < nsf> anyway, I hope at least it will help to find a real bug (if
it's not)
01:09 < jessta> ah, nice
01:10 < nsf> and I'm pretty sure about issue 886 case, that the cause of a
bug is a bunch of simultaneous writes to the mcache from different threads
01:10 < nsf> I mean it is very likely, but given the fact that this is my
first experience debugging multithreaded app :D
01:10 < nsf> maybe I'm wrong
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01:17 < nsf> but well, this oneliner solves the issue, even if the fix
itself is wrong from the logical point of view, it is the place where bug happens
01:17 < nsf> which is certainly good
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04:08 < bluej774> Has anyone successfully used the Time.Format() function in
the time module?
04:08 < bluej774> I'm having issues with it.
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04:14 < bluej774> http://codepad.org/NhCvgtlL
04:15 < bluej774> This returns:
%Ymissing%mmissing%dmissing_%Hmissing%Mmissing
04:15 < bluej774> Anybody have any ideas to resolve it?
04:20 < bluej774> Anyone...?
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04:25 < drhodes> bluej774: try fmt.Printf(now.Format(time.ANSIC) + "\n")
04:26 < bluej774> That worked.
04:27 < KirkMcDonald> Time.Format is not strftime.
04:27 < bluej774> Is there any way to format the time how I want it?
04:27 < drhodes> there's more examples in GO ROOT/src/pkg/time/time_test.go
04:27 < drhodes> but I'm not that familiar with it, sorry
04:28 < bluej774> thanks
04:28 < drhodes> you're welcome
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05:40 < bluej774> Is there any way to do substring stuff in Go?
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05:40 < napsy> bluej774: see the strings package
05:41 < bluej774> I was looking at that, but I didn't see a substring type
of function
05:41 < napsy> bluej774: what were you searching for
05:42 < bluej774> Given a string and a range, a string returned with the
input's contents in that range of characters.
05:42 < napsy> try strings.Index
05:42 < napsy> you can give a range using array bounds
05:43 < bluej774> Index doesn't return a string
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05:44 < napsy> bluej774: mystr[4:8] will return a string in range 4 to 8
from mystr
05:45 < bluej774> Ah. Thanks.  I was using a comma for some reason.
05:45 < napsy> np
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06:33 < bluej774> I apologize.  I'm new to go.  The keyword else doesn't
seem to work.  Does go have some kind of special syntax for else?
06:33 < bluej774> n/m
06:34 < bluej774> I guess the else has to be on the same line as the closing
bracket of the if.
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06:35 < jessta> bluej774: yep
06:36 < jessta> bluej774: http://golang.org/doc/effective_go.html#semicolons
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07:41 < mpl> bluej774: that's funny.  I had actually never noticed it was
compulsory because that's what I always do anyways :)
07:41 < mpl> so, thanks to you.
07:41 < bluej774> np
07:42 < bluej774> I have my own coding style that doesn't seem to work well
with go.
07:42 < bluej774> I'm having to adapt a bin
07:42 < bluej774> *bit
07:43 < mpl> bluej774: well as long as it compiles you can write it however
you want and just grind it through gofmt afterwards.
07:44 < jessta> mpl: brace position is important for compiling
07:45 < mpl> jessta: hence why I said as long as it compiles.  :)
07:45 < mpl> but I never noticed that either, I guess was already using most
of their style since I'm "formatted" to plan 9's C coding.
07:46 < jessta> bluej774: the parser inserts a semicolon before a newline if
the line doesn't end in a token that shows that the statement is incomplete
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07:46 < jessta> mpl: yeah, I've never had any trouble with it either
07:47 < mpl> the first time I wrote an if I got it wrong because I didn't
know I should omit the parenthesis, but that was very easy to get used to
07:47 < jessta> and not having to go back and put in all those semicolons I
forgot is really nice
07:47 < mpl> indeed
07:47 < jessta> I keep getting done by that if parenthesis
07:47 < mpl> now I'm forgetting more of them in my C or java as a side
effect though :/
07:48 < jessta> lol, true
07:48 < jessta> I get confused about where the type should go in
declarations
07:49 < mpl> ah yes, that one felt very natural too after a while
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07:49 < mpl> go is actually getting me less productive in other languages
because it is so nice and I keep going back to my pets projects in Go instead of
working :/
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07:59 < bluej774> Anyone know of any examples of the http pkg being used to
download a file?
08:02 < jessta> bluej774: it's pretty simple just: http.Get(url)
08:02 < bluej774> That's what I'm doing.  Hmm let me post my code.  Somehow
I'm not getting the data I want.
08:03 < exch> i'm going to wager that you didn't Close() the response body
after reading the byte data :)
08:04 < bluej774> http://pastebin.com/Rg3EBQNN
08:04 < bluej774> I did that
08:05 < exch> this works for me http://pastebin.com/5uPd69Jr
08:06 < bluej774> where is ioutil coming from?
08:06 < exch> import "io/ioutil"
08:07 < bluej774> didn't know about that.  that might help
08:08 < jessta> bluej774: also, you're not checking the err return from
buf.ReadFrom()
08:10 < exch> concerning the code I posted, I just noticed a potential
problem.  the first check for err != nil may fail.  the http.Get all redefines
err.  I'm not sure which one gets used in the if {} check
08:10 * exch should test that
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08:12 < jessta> I'm pretty sure that err is the same as the other err
08:12 < jessta> they're declared in the same scope
08:12 < bluej774> still not working for me
08:13 < jessta> bluej774: what are you getting?
08:13 < bluej774> An empty file.
08:13 < exch> jessta: yes, you're probably right.  It's just not immediately
apparent from the code
08:14 < bluej774> http://pastebin.com/vm8nycBF
08:15 < bluej774> no errors, but an empty file
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08:20 < exch> os.Open() fails if the file doesn't exist.  the byte array
returned from http.Get is not empty here
08:20 < exch> 329953 bytes
08:20 < mpl> he's gone.
08:21 < exch> ah well :p
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08:29 < exch> incase he gets back.  this works for me.
http://pastebin.com/6CMP4nKS
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09:57 < wrtp> nsf: so how did the hackathon go?
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10:42 < nf> it was great!
10:42 < nf> at least, i had fun hosting it :)
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12:04 < wrtp> nsf: anything actually get made?
12:05 < wrtp> (BTW, i did think about coming down, but it wasn't possible
with current house chaos situation...)
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12:17 < nsf> wrtp: what do you mean?
12:17 < wrtp> i had this idea that the idea was to hack some stuff up.
12:18 < wrtp> so i wondered if anything was
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12:18 * nsf has no idea what are you talking about
12:19 < wrtp> oh
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12:20 < wrtp> what was the hackathon about then?
12:21 < wrtp> i thought it was about people getting together and doing some
go programming
12:21 < nsf> I think you're taking me for someone else
12:21 < nsf> nf maybe?
12:21 < wrtp> oh fuck
12:21 < wrtp> scuse my french
12:22 < wrtp> my eyes aren't everything they could be
12:22 < jnwhiteh> The hackathon happened
12:22 < jnwhiteh> but wasn't quite a hackathon =)
12:22 < jnwhiteh> It was a repeat of the USENIX sessions/worksheets that
Russ had put together
12:22 < wrtp> are they on the web?
12:22 < jnwhiteh> 4 sessions, 10 slides of introduction and then the rest of
the time spent coding in each session
12:23 < wrtp> nsf: sorry for mistakenly identifying you as the host of the
london go hackathon!
12:23 < nsf> :)
12:24 < nsf> I had my own hackathon yesterday..  8 hours of digging into the
Go's runtime trying to fix the bug
12:24 < wrtp> jnwhiteh: is this a photo of the session:
http://tweetphoto.com/29273401
12:24 < jnwhiteh> indeed it is.
12:24 < wrtp> nsf: oh yes, i saw your post.  i haven't looked at the code
yet though.
12:24 < jnwhiteh> I'm two to the right of the blue shirt =)
12:25 < jnwhiteh> there were very few people who knew anything about Go that
attended, so a hackathon wasn't quite the best format =)
12:25 < wrtp> next time maybe
12:25 < nsf> wrtp: I hope they'll fix it soon, because basically it stops me
from doing any OpenGL stuff in Go, and it is sad
12:25 < wrtp> anyway, it was a good name!
12:26 < jnwhiteh> nsf: I think we're going to organise a proper hackathon in
a few months time.
12:27 < jnwhiteh> http://swtch.com/usenix/course.html is the result I get
from Googling the info on the handouts =)
12:28 < wrtp> nsf: sounds like you've fixed it in your local version...  so
you can at least do opengl stuff on your own computer, and release it when the
bug's been fixed.
12:29 < nsf> wrtp: not really, my fix introduces weird behaviour to the
scheduler (e.g.  it doesn't spawn threads when it should, etc.)
12:29 < nsf> I'm sure the bug is quite easy to fix for the one who
understands the scheduler
12:29 < nsf> I just don't want to dig into it anymore
12:29 < wrtp> ah...  you should perhaps make that (that it breaks the
scheduler) clear in the comments.
12:30 < wrtp> not happy with the go runtime?  :-)
12:30 < nsf> I did
12:30 < nsf> yep
12:30 < nsf> I really hope it will be rewritten soon
12:30 < nsf> at least the GC
12:31 < nsf> ref counted + cycle detector sounds good to me (a la python)
12:32 < nsf> maybe it's not the fastest, but it is quite predictable
12:32 < jnwhiteh> would it be 'stop all goroutines', or could it be done
per-goro?
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21:13 < nsf> http://omploader.org/vNHJ5dg/gotrisbox.png - lol, I've just
ported my gotris to my termbox library (which has Go bindings) and now I can play
tetris in a terminal emulator :)
21:14 < EthanG> neat!
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21:18 < nsf> it needs however few cosmetic changes and optimizations, and
then it goes to public repo
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21:20 * jer has been considering writing an emulator for a cpu design project i've
been planning for some time now in go
21:21 < plexdev> http://is.gd/d88hK by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/gob/ -- gob:
allow transmission of things other than structs at the top level.
21:21 < plexdev> http://is.gd/d88hN by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/fmt/ --
fmt.Printf: fix bug in handling of %#v.
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23:08 < plexdev> http://is.gd/d8dtB by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/netchan/ --
netchan: allow chan of basic types now that gob can handle such
23:09 < plexdev> http://is.gd/d8dtF by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/rpc/ -- rpc:
allow non-struct args and reply (they must still be pointers)
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23:25 < plexdev> http://is.gd/d8eot by [Peter Mundy] in go/src/pkg/syscall/
-- syscall: Add syscall_bsd.go to zsycall_freebsd_386.go
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23:42 < plexdev> http://is.gd/d8fef by [Ken Thompson] in go/src/cmd/gc/ --
compiler fatal error in switch.
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23:59 < plexdev> http://is.gd/d8fZE by [Andrew Gerrand] in go/ -- A+C for
Peter Mundy (peterGo)
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