--- Log opened Sat Dec 18 00:00:01 2010
00:00 < uriel> will have to be enough ;)
00:00 < nsf> hehe, like now you have the choice
00:00 < nsf> on the right it's in one order, on the left it's in another
order
00:00 < nsf> :P
00:01 < nsf> uriel: about cgo..  yeah..  my problem is that I'm very
impatient, if something doesn't work from the first try, I complain..  a lot
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01:29 < xash> Does the gocompiler already have inlinefunction?  (I think,
they were called so in C ..) ..  means: should I even put x+y*width in a function
or would it be a waste of ressources?
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01:33 < exch> xash: no inlining yet
01:33 < xash> Ok, thanks :-)
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01:36 < TheSeeker> iant: I'm trying to compile go in windows using msys and
mingw64
01:37 <+iant> can't say as how I've tried that myself
01:38 < TheSeeker> As far as I can tell, nobody compiles go on windows, it's
all cross-compiled from linux.  so there's no real guide or template to follow.
:|
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02:50 < exch> ffs I really hate githubs comment/PM formatting malarky -.- It
thoroughly messes up code pastes
02:51 < exch> It has a 5 mile page explaining what it's 'glorious'
formatting is about, but no mention of how to simply paste a block of code without
it being mangled into oblivion
02:51 < nsf> just indent the whole block
02:52 < exch> Yea, someone might have mentioned that :p
02:52 < exch> I dont mind shit like that for a blog, but this is a fooking
code sharing platform.  So let me share code already -.-
02:52 * exch rages a bit
02:52 < nsf> :)
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02:57 < Namegduf> Hmm.
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02:57 < Namegduf> gofmt "generics" are more annoying to implement than I'd
expected.
02:58 < Namegduf> Stupid compiler, when I say nil I mean whatever zero type
is appropriate
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03:48 < |Craig|> Namegduf: gotgo has worked well for my (rather limited)
generic needs https://github.com/droundy/gotgo
03:49 < Namegduf> |Craig|: I'm just using it to generate a string-only
rather than interface{} value version of my data structure, to avoid assertions
everywhere.
03:49 < |Craig|> thats what I used it for
03:50 < |Craig|> well, not for strings, but same idea
03:52 < Namegduf> It's kinda overkill and I'd like other people to be able
to compile this, in theory.
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04:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/iW1yp by [Anthony Martin] in
go/src/pkg/crypto/hmac/ -- crypto/hmac: add HMAC-SHA256
04:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/iW1yz by [Russ Cox] in 6 subdirs of go/ --
misc/cgo/life: fix, add to build
04:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/iW1zD by [Russ Cox] in go/src/cmd/ld/ -- ld:
allow relocations pointing at ELF .bss symbols
04:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/iW1Ac by [Russ Cox] in go/src/cmd/ld/ -- ld:
ignore stab symbols
04:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/iW1AO by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/regexp/ --
regexp: change Expr() to String(); add HasOperator method to Regexp.
04:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/iW1BI by [Russ Cox] in 4 subdirs of go/ --
cgo: handle references to symbols in shared libraries
04:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/iW1Cr by [Russ Cox] in 2 subdirs of go/src/ --
fix cgo build
04:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/iW1D1 by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/json/ --
json: fix Fatal call in test
04:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/iW1Dv by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/crypto/tls/
-- tls: fix argument mistake in Error call.
04:06 < plexdev> http://is.gd/iW1Ef by [Robert Griesemer] in
go/src/pkg/go/scanner/ -- go/scanner: interpret filenames in //line filename:line
comments
04:07 < plexdev> http://is.gd/iW1F1 by [Robert Griesemer] in
go/src/pkg/index/suffixarray/ -- suffixarray: implememted FindAllIndex regexp
search
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06:12 < tdnrad> What is the complexity of iterating through the keys on a
map?  Does it just depend on iterating through the possible values for the
underlying hash or is there some list?
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06:34 < |Craig|> tdnrad: I'd suspect its linear time either way as the size
of the hash table would be linear
06:35 < |Craig|> whether its fast or not, is another issue, and I don't know
06:35 < |Craig|> but you can easily test it aginst slice iteration
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07:01 < tdnrad> |Craig|: maybe I will..  Trying to figure out if it will be
efficient enough for something I'm going to be doing about a billion times..
thinking i might have to chuck it in a slice..
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07:47 < |Craig|> tdnrad: here is a container of mine that might be slightly
relevant:
https://github.com/Craig-Macomber/Grains--Vegetarian-Zombie-Rising/blob/master/Server/iterBag.got
It deals with a collection of slices
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10:45 <@nf> tdnrad: my advice is to measure it
10:46 <@nf> ;)
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11:42 < fuzzybyte> does there exist somewhere of simple Makefile examples
for go or tutorial or such?
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11:55 < fuzzybyte> i tried following this guide but it does not generate
executable http://go.hokapoka.com/golang/using-makefile-with-golang/
11:57 < exch> fuzzybyte:
https://github.com/jteeuwen/go-example-multipkg/blob/master/app/Makefile
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11:58 < fuzzybyte> oh i see.  using Make.cmd instead of Make.pkg works
11:58 < fuzzybyte> thank you
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12:16 < Namegduf> Are RWMutexes significantly slower when uncontended than
regular Mutexes?
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15:45 < exch> poop.  http.send() is still not public :<
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16:45 < fuzzybyte> why can't I do this?  id := 5; fmt.Println(id++) (syntax
error)
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16:47 < KBme> that is weird
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16:52 < fuzzybyte> yeaahh, but you could do that in C...  couldn't you?  can
I only use i++ as a standalone statement in go?
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16:53 < KBme> it would seem so, i don't really understand the issue at all,
though, i'm just an user of go..
16:54 < fuzzybyte> just trying out things..
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16:55 < nsf> i++ is not an expression
16:55 < nsf> it's a statement in Go
16:56 < fuzzybyte> ah ok.  my terminology is way off, haha )))
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16:57 < Namegduf> Wow.
16:57 < Namegduf> Replacing that channel+goroutine with a mutex was
effective...  and apparantly removed all natural yields from that part of the
program.
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18:08 < inv_arp> installed Go, compiled my "Hello World" :)..  just
wondering why is the resulting "Hello World" binary 1.3mb?
18:11 < uriel> inv_arp: because 1) it is all statically linked
18:11 < uriel> 2) includes the Go runtime
18:12 < uriel> 3) probably includes debugging info
18:12 < uriel> (and dont' try to strip it, it will break stuff)
18:12 < uriel> 4) the Go compilers have in no way been optimized for binary
size
18:14 < Namegduf> It does not rise stupidly quickly
18:14 < Namegduf> So it is not correct to assume that Hello World being
1.3MB makes other things superhuge
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18:17 < fuzzybyte> how do you not statically link everything?
18:17 < Namegduf> You can't.
18:17 < Namegduf> It isn't useful in most cases anyway because any end user
you might have will not have the Go stdlib installed.
18:18 < fuzzybyte> alriighty
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18:24 < uriel> I guess you could use gccgo, but I don't see the point
18:24 < taruti> Namegduf: try strop ps
18:25 < taruti> Namegduf: try strip -s
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18:42 < flavius> Hi. I've just started trying out go, but it's not clear to
me why the resulting "hello world" program is so big: 1.5mb, 1.0mb when stripped?
18:43 < exch> flavius: the go runtime and all referenced packages are
statically linked into the binary
18:44 < exch> this makes sure you can deploy it as-is, without the need for
the user to install some other nonsense
18:46 < flavius> yeah I thought about that, but can't I make it dynamically
linked?
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18:47 < exch> nope
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18:55 < inv_arp> uriel: ah ok thanks..
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19:48 < jeff2> what is the best way to detect integer overflow?
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20:22 < flavius> Is anyone aware of an OS written in go, a fairly basic one?
20:25 < exch> flavius: check out $GOROOT/src/pkg/runtime/tiny
20:26 < exch> not exactly an OS, but it's a start
20:26 < taruti> there is tinygo with extensions to that
20:27 < taruti> http://code.google.com/p/tinygo/
20:27 < flavius> taruti: thanks, I was googling for that and had
difficulties.  google code search doesn't find it either
20:28 * taruti tried to googling it first -> failed, then fetched the link from
reddit
20:28 < taruti> the go is bad for googling
20:29 < flavius> actually I tried "tinygo"
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20:45 < Urtie> It's ironically an amazingly bad name for googling, yes.
Hopefully more people will start sticking with "golang" when writing about it.
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20:51 < gr0gmint> any idea what this error could be an indication of?
http://pastebin.com/UmR88a8f
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21:14 < tdnrad> thanks nf and |Craig| for your suggestions last night.  I
will look further into things today.
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