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Woe is me. 06:46 -!- snearch [~snearch@f053008216.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 06:46 < KirkMcDonald> We are nothing if not a font of woe. 06:47 < Myr> Oddly delicious. 06:48 < Kafo> Is it safe to do net.Conn.Read() and net.Conn.Write() at the same time from different goroutines? 06:48 < dfc> Kafo, yes 06:48 < Kafo> Great, thanks. 06:49 < Myr> So out of curiousity, how mature are the sdl bindings and similar for Go? I'm tossing around the idea with a friend of starting a new game project in the language, for the hell of it. 06:50 < Kafo> Myr, Works fine on Linux, not sure about Windows and OS X. 06:50 < Myr> I'd focus on a linux build for development, with the idea of porting it to windows when the release becomes a bit more.. wholesome? 06:51 < Myr> But yea, looks like a rather intuitive language. 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other major religions, I think it's voluntarily. 12:55 < xyproto> aiju: (of course, following a moral code of your choosing should be considered voluntarily in the first place, like being a vegetarian) 12:55 < xyproto> aiju: (vegetarians can "sin" from time to time, but still be vegetarians) 12:55 < aiju> the moral code i follow includes being compelled to ridicule religion 12:56 < xyproto> aiju: interesting. Almost like Tourettes? 12:56 < aiju> haha 12:58 -!- vsayer [~vivek@c-67-170-236-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:04 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-249-242-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:06 -!- huin [~huin@91.84.64.19] has quit [Quit: off out] 13:14 -!- gaxxx [~woo@58.53.115.214] has joined #go-nuts 13:16 -!- zimsim [~simon@87.72.77.195] has joined #go-nuts 13:24 -!- kamaji [~kamaji@cpc2-aztw22-2-0-cust775.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #go-nuts 13:26 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@c-24-0-2-70.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: skelterjohn] 13:30 -!- artefon [~thiago@dhcp17.usuarios.dcc.ufmg.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:30 -!- r_linux [~r_linux@189.38.220.35] has joined #go-nuts 13:33 -!- boomtopper [~boomtoppe@host86-128-243-59.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:37 -!- napsy [~luka@193.2.66.6] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:41 -!- zimsim [~simon@87.72.77.195] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:41 -!- zimsim [~simon@87.72.77.195] has joined #go-nuts 13:50 -!- aimxhaisse [~mxs@94.23.241.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:55 -!- B0rder [~B0rder@114.246.101.75] has joined #go-nuts 13:55 -!- B0rder [~B0rder@114.246.101.75] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:56 -!- B0rder [~B0rder@114.246.101.75] has joined #go-nuts 13:57 -!- PJRobins [~kvirc@184-100-100-163.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:02 -!- flaguy48 [~gmallard@user-0c6s350.cable.mindspring.com] has left #go-nuts [] 14:03 -!- TheMue [~TheMue@p5DDF5F01.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:04 -!- pharris [~Adium@rhgw.opentext.com] has joined #go-nuts 14:07 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@lawn-gw.rutgers.edu] has joined #go-nuts 14:08 -!- juggaloking [txkfuq@app7.chatmosphere.org] has joined #go-nuts 14:09 < juggaloking> hey hi 14:11 < xyproto> uhm, silly question, but how can I copy the contents of one struct into another? 14:12 < aiju> a = b 14:13 < xyproto> aiju: that easy? I wouldn't have known. Thanks :) 14:17 -!- juggaloking [txkfuq@app7.chatmosphere.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:17 < plexdev> http://is.gd/DecQrn by [Evan Shaw] in go/src/pkg/http/cgi/ -- http/cgi: correctly set request Content-Type 14:22 -!- tvw [~tv@212.79.9.150] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23 -!- PJRobins [~kvirc@184-100-100-163.mpls.qwest.net] has left #go-nuts ["Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is"] 14:24 -!- PJRobins [~kvirc@184-100-100-163.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:28 -!- aimxhaisse [~mxs@buffout.org] has joined #go-nuts 14:37 -!- dfc [~dfc@124-171-26-181.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: dfc] 14:49 -!- fabled [~fabled@83.145.235.194] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 14:49 -!- B0rder [~B0rder@114.246.101.75] has quit [Quit: 离开] 14:53 -!- dunc [522c3cdf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.44.60.223] has joined #go-nuts 14:54 -!- dunc [522c3cdf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.44.60.223] has left #go-nuts [] 14:55 -!- duncg [522c3cdf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.44.60.223] has joined #go-nuts 14:56 -!- Adys [~Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has quit [Quit: Quit] 14:57 -!- Adys [~Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has joined #go-nuts 14:59 < duncg> Hello. 15:01 < xyproto> duncg: Hello. 15:01 < duncg> Anybody here? 15:01 < duncg> Hi. 15:01 < aiju> no 15:01 * aiju hides 15:02 < duncg> I'm new to go and was wondering if this was the right place to ask questions. 15:03 < skelterjohn> it is indeed 15:03 < skelterjohn> shoot 15:03 < skelterjohn> well, depends what "go" you mean. 15:03 < skelterjohn> i do know how to play the game go, but i'm not really an expert 15:04 < aiju> we're not talking about the board game ;P 15:04 < skelterjohn> if you want to know more about how to "go", then i'm definitely not the right person to talk to 15:05 < aiju> actually this is a channel about insanity 15:05 < aiju> as is obvious from the channel name 15:05 < skelterjohn> aiju is your man for that topic 15:05 * ww would like to see a go playing ai written in go 15:05 < skelterjohn> well, the top go programs use monte-carlo tree search as the basis of their algorithms 15:06 < skelterjohn> and i have written MCTS code in go 15:06 < skelterjohn> https://github.com/skelterjohn/rlalg/tree/master/fsss 15:06 < duncg> I like the game but I was hoping to ask about method overloading. 15:07 < skelterjohn> it doesn't work like it does in java or with C++ virtual functions 15:07 < duncg> The FAQ on the website says go doesn't support this but an entry from the blog seems to imply the the 'make' function does. 15:07 < skelterjohn> make is a special built-in 15:07 < skelterjohn> it cheats 15:07 < duncg> Ah cool. Thanks. 15:08 < duncg> Sneaky. 15:08 < ww> make, copy and append are special 15:08 < skelterjohn> well, you can't write a function that takes a type as a parameter 15:08 < skelterjohn> but you need to call one in order to allocate stuff in a safe way 15:09 -!- piranha [~piranha@83.221.140.244] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:09 -!- piranha [~piranha@83.221.140.244] has joined #go-nuts 15:10 < duncg> OK, thanks for clearing that up. Goodbye. P.S. I really like the language, I hope it takes off in an big way. 15:11 -!- duncg [522c3cdf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.44.60.223] has left #go-nuts [] 15:14 < ww> skelterjohn: have you thought at all about how markov processes / mc simulations might be related to statistical theorem proving? 15:14 < ww> (i haven't very much myself) 15:14 < skelterjohn> wow...uh...yes i have. that is probably the last thing i expected to be asked here 15:15 < ww> :) 15:15 < ww> it's a sideline that i don't have much time to devote to at the moment. 15:15 < skelterjohn> what's your field? 15:16 < ww> skelterjohn: good question! 15:16 < skelterjohn> student/academic/industry? 15:17 < ww> mostly in but not of the university - currently working on data catalogues with edina.ed.ac.uk 15:17 < ww> err... edina.ac.uk 15:18 < ww> my interest in the topic stems from provenance, as applied to rdf data - (subject, predicate, object) assertions together with rules 15:19 < ww> the current (but still uncommon) practice is to have rules running in FOPL/Horn style 15:20 < ww> when you start including provenance data, you get "i believe this assertion by X with Y% certainty" and you can't do the straightforward Rete or back-chaining types of things with that 15:21 < ww> my actual work at the moment is groundwork - literally - basically generating ground facts out of data in other forms 15:24 < xyproto> skelterjohn: I also play the game of go. I was 5k on KGS before I took a long break (took too much time). Now I play on dragongoserver.net. It's nice, because it takes little time to just play a move now and then. 15:25 < skelterjohn> ww: i just like thinking about inference and planning, in general 15:25 < skelterjohn> i don't think much about classical theorem proving specifically 15:26 < skelterjohn> but proving two expressions are equal seems like something that could be done with MCTS and some good inference 15:26 < skelterjohn> xyproto: probably much better htan i am, then 15:33 < fzzbt> does go have ordered maps? 15:33 < taruti> no 15:36 < ww> skelterjohn: i suppose on some level that's equivalent. i'm thinking in terms of (1) deriving entailed statements and (2) explaining the derivation 15:36 -!- gaxxx [~woo@58.53.115.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:36 < ww> it's the derivation part that i'm not sure about once you throw probabilistic reasoning into the mix 15:37 < skelterjohn> what do you mean when you say probabilistic reasoning 15:37 < skelterjohn> do you mean reasoning about probability, or using probability in your reasoning? 15:38 < ww> where you have statements of the form X believes Y with probability P 15:38 < skelterjohn> i see 15:39 < ww> in the special case where P is always 1, you ignore X and then use the usual forward or backward chaining techniques as usual 15:40 < skelterjohn> one of the hard things about reasoning this way is the multi-path problem 15:40 < ww> but when your data sources are spread out over the net you don't have that luxury otherwise you end up with rubbish entailments 15:40 < skelterjohn> if there are two ways for a statement to be true, then the likelihood that the statement is true is <= to the sum of the likelihoods of those two ways happening 15:40 < skelterjohn> that sort of thing 15:41 < skelterjohn> i have a paper you might be interested in 15:41 < skelterjohn> and when i say "i", i mean a guy in my department 15:41 < ww> sure 15:42 < skelterjohn> http://www.cs.rutgers.edu/~ccshan/rational/embedpp.pdf 15:42 < skelterjohn> don't be scared by the title 15:42 < skelterjohn> it's a simple idea 15:42 < skelterjohn> using real code and stochastic branching when random choices have to be made 15:42 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:42 < skelterjohn> (lunch) 15:43 < aiju> switch lunch { 15:43 < ww> bon apetit and thanks! 15:44 -!- kaichenxyz [~kaichenxy@li261-87.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: kaichenxyz] 15:47 -!- artefon [~thiago@dhcp17.usuarios.dcc.ufmg.br] has joined #go-nuts 15:49 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has joined #go-nuts 15:57 -!- zerosanity [~josh@8.20.178.82] has joined #go-nuts 15:57 -!- unofficialmvp [~dev@94-62-164-227.b.ipv4ilink.net] has joined #go-nuts 15:57 -!- unofficialmvp [~dev@94-62-164-227.b.ipv4ilink.net] has left #go-nuts [] 16:01 -!- a2800276 [~a2800276@80.187.221.54] has joined #go-nuts 16:01 -!- vsayer [~vivek@c-67-170-236-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:09 -!- huin [~huin@91.84.64.19] has joined #go-nuts 16:11 -!- vsayer [~vivek@c-67-170-236-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:33 -!- tav [~tav@92.7.142.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:38 -!- tav [~tav@2.96.33.229] has joined #go-nuts 16:39 -!- a2800276 [~a2800276@80.187.221.54] has quit [Quit: a2800276] 16:40 < fzzbt> how can i make a pointer to any type of function 16:40 < aiju> not at all 16:41 < fzzbt> what do i do then 16:41 < aiju> not that 16:41 < aiju> you could try giving some context 16:42 < fzzbt> i have bunch of URL patterns that i want to match to certain handler functions 16:43 < fzzbt> i want to use regexp to match them 16:43 < skelterjohn> you can have function values 16:44 < skelterjohn> var x func() = something 16:44 < skelterjohn> for instance 16:44 -!- sacho [~sacho@77.70.111.88] has joined #go-nuts 16:44 < skelterjohn> and then pass x around 16:44 < skelterjohn> y 16:44 < skelterjohn> you don't need to pass around its address 16:44 < exch> type MyFunc func(a int) int; var f MyFunc = some_handler 16:45 < xulfer> Hm could you not do this with unsafe? 16:45 -!- TheMue [~TheMue@p5DDF5F01.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: TheMue] 16:45 < skelterjohn> i can't imagine how that could be a good idea 16:45 < exch> why would you need unsafe for that? 16:45 < skelterjohn> since you can do it completely safely 16:46 < xulfer> Well I wasn't saying it was a good idea 16:46 < fzzbt> oh nvm, all the functions are same type anyway 16:47 < xulfer> exch: Wasn't commenting on your suggestion. 16:47 < skelterjohn> xulfer: :) 16:48 -!- artefon [~thiago@dhcp17.usuarios.dcc.ufmg.br] has quit [Quit: bye] 16:48 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@66.54.185.133] has joined #go-nuts 16:50 < plexdev> http://is.gd/lFFmTH by [Robert Griesemer] in go/doc/ -- spec: narrow syntax for expression and select statements 16:56 < kamaji> If I use new, will maps in my struct be automatically created with make? 16:59 < wrtp> kamaji: no 16:59 < wrtp> xulfer: you can do anything with unsafe... 17:00 < kamaji> thought not. thanks 17:00 < xulfer> So yes. 17:01 -!- arun_ [~arun@unaffiliated/sindian] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:12 -!- angasule [~angasule@190.2.33.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:12 -!- sacho [~sacho@77.70.111.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:13 -!- firwen [~firwen@2a01:e34:eea3:7e10:4a5b:39ff:fe51:e8ae] has joined #go-nuts 17:14 -!- fabled [~fabled@83.145.235.194] has joined #go-nuts 17:14 -!- arun_ [~arun@unaffiliated/sindian] has joined #go-nuts 17:15 -!- sebastianskejoe [~sebastian@188.114.142.217] has joined #go-nuts 17:23 -!- aho [~nya@fuld-590c6e65.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:33 -!- nkdnstbr [~nkdnstbr@cpe-173-172-231-83.rgv.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:34 -!- sebastia1skejoe [~sebastian@188.114.142.217] has joined #go-nuts 17:36 -!- sebastianskejoe [~sebastian@188.114.142.217] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:36 -!- Project_2501 [~Marvin@dynamic-adsl-94-36-170-230.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined 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quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:56 < telexicon> how about balancing simple but powerful type system 19:56 < aiju> boo c? wtf? ;P 19:56 < aiju> but yeah, C grammar is sort of fucked up 19:56 < telexicon> aiju, yeah, c grammar is still messy, and the preprocessor, or requiring function prototypes 19:57 < aiju> C is still fairly high on my list 19:57 < telexicon> its a bunch of stuff required by ancient hardware that isnt an issue anymore 19:57 < aiju> nah that's not it 19:58 < aiju> even dmr dislikes the preprocessor 19:58 < aiju> also, not all C compilers have preprocessors ;P 19:59 < telexicon> aiju, oh? 19:59 < aiju> kencc (used by Go) does the preprocessing during parsing 20:00 < telexicon> aiju, still, go cleans up most of the issues i have with c, has more power in the typesystem, avoids most of the pitfalls and had a fast parse time 20:00 < telexicon> and strong concurrency 20:00 < aiju> telexicon: true 20:06 -!- m4dh4tt3r [~Adium@c-98-210-145-213.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has 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skelterjohn] 20:21 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@c-24-0-2-70.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:22 < gmilleramilar> are the recent changes to goinstall (GOPATH and execuatable) written up anywhere? 20:22 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@c-24-0-2-70.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:22 -!- skelterjohn_ [~jasmuth@c-24-0-2-70.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:28 -!- vsayer [~vivek@c-67-170-236-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:30 -!- SecretAgent [sa@28.158.143.98.nitemare.name] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:31 < niemeyer_> gmilleramilar: Hmmm.. only in mail threads I think 20:31 < niemeyer_> gmilleramilar: The idea is pretty basic, though 20:31 < niemeyer_> gmilleramilar: You set GOPATH to the directory you want your packages installed to, and goinstall will use it 20:32 < niemeyer_> gmilleramilar: If there are multiple entries, they will be used to satisfy dependencies, and the first one will be used as the target. 20:32 < niemeyer_> gmilleramilar: That's pretty much it 20:32 < gmilleramilar> where does the source get checked out? 20:32 -!- Cobi [~Cobi@2002:1828:88fb:0:aede:48ff:febe:ef03] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 20:35 < niemeyer> gmilleramilar: At $GOPATH[0]/src 20:35 < gmilleramilar> cool. 20:36 -!- Cobi [~Cobi@2002:1828:88fb:0:aede:48ff:febe:ef03] has joined #go-nuts 20:37 -!- SecretAgent [sa@28.158.143.98.nitemare.name] has joined #go-nuts 20:37 -!- huin [~huin@91.84.64.19] has quit [Quit: bedtimes] 20:40 -!- edsrzf [~edsrzf@122-61-221-144.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #go-nuts 20:41 -!- jyxent [~jyxent@129.128.191.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:43 -!- jyxent [~jyxent@129.128.191.49] has joined #go-nuts 20:48 < skelterjohn_> niemeyer: do you know if goinstall will support multiple entries in GOPATH, yet? 20:48 < niemeyer> skelterjohn_: It does 20:49 < niemeyer> skelterjohn_: (already) 20:49 < niemeyer> skelterjohn_: Separate them using the typical token in your OS (e.g. : in Linux) 20:55 < skelterjohn_> so, if i put my own project in $AGOPATHDIR/src/myproj 20:55 < skelterjohn_> and "goinstall myproj" that should work? 20:57 -!- Kafo [~Henry@a91-154-4-216.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:58 < niemeyer> skelterjohn_: That's correct 21:04 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@66.54.185.133] has quit [Quit: Venom_X] 21:04 -!- aljamms8 [~s@customer943.pool1.Acton-GLN1070-BAS0001.orangehomedsl.co.uk] has joined #go-nuts 21:11 -!- angasule [~angasule@190.2.33.49] has joined #go-nuts 21:12 -!- nkdnstbr [~nkdnstbr@cpe-173-172-231-83.rgv.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 21:17 -!- Project_2501 [~Marvin@dynamic-adsl-94-36-150-70.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: E se abbasso questa leva che succ...] 21:20 -!- fmoo [~Adium@c-76-102-41-101.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:23 < TheMue> [ANN] Tideland Redis Database Client for Go now in beta status. http://bit.ly/l6Ns91 21:24 -!- 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