--- Log opened Tue Mar 16 00:00:25 2010 00:06 -!- marty [~hans@2002:465a:aa25:0:226:bbff:fe05:dd9b] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 00:06 -!- hstimer [~hstimer@70.90.170.37] has quit [Quit: hstimer] 00:11 -!- fwiffo [~fwiffo@unaffiliated/fwiffo] has joined #go-nuts 00:11 -!- Amaranth [~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #go-nuts 00:11 -!- Amaranth [~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13 -!- wuehlmaus [~wuehlmaus@p4FCC7FEE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:14 -!- wuehlmaus [~wuehlmaus@p4FCC7E1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:17 -!- mssm [~mssm@ip-95-221-126-214.bb.netbynet.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:21 -!- fwiffo_ [~fwiffo@189.115.9.140] has joined #go-nuts 00:24 -!- fwiffo [~fwiffo@unaffiliated/fwiffo] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:25 -!- Amaranth [~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #go-nuts 00:26 -!- crashR [~crasher@codextreme.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:27 -!- nutate [~rseymour@cacsag4.usc.edu] has quit [Quit: I'm outta heee-eere] 00:28 -!- OpenSpace [~ja@79.101.166.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:29 -!- ssb [~ssb@213.167.39.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:29 -!- ssb [~ssb@213.167.39.150] has joined #go-nuts 00:38 -!- Xera^ [~brit@87-194-208-246.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )] 00:38 -!- ak2 [~ak2@nat/cisco/x-tzdmkekjmcwwrxjh] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-69-107-75-165.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: rhelmer] 00:40 -!- mikespook [~mikespook@219.136.141.14] has joined #go-nuts 00:42 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-69-107-75-165.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:47 -!- OpenSpace [~ja@109.93.142.111] has joined #go-nuts 00:47 -!- ak2 [~ak2@soenat3.cse.ucsc.edu] has joined #go-nuts 00:49 -!- hstimer_ [~hstimer@c-98-234-25-125.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:49 -!- hstimer [~hans@c-98-234-25-125.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:50 -!- ilsanto [~max@unaffiliated/ilsanto] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:50 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@d64-180-45-230.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:51 -!- ilsanto [~max@unaffiliated/ilsanto] has joined #go-nuts 00:53 -!- tor5 [~tor@m780f36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Quit: tor5] 00:54 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 00:57 -!- ak2 [~ak2@soenat3.cse.ucsc.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:02 -!- ak2 [~ak2@nat/cisco/x-cwxzbcvsbwoanioo] has joined #go-nuts 01:04 -!- rhelmer_ [~rhelmer@adsl-69-107-85-160.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:04 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-69-107-75-165.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:19 -!- homa_rano [~erice@LAPDANCE.MIT.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:19 -!- homa_rano [~erice@LAPDANCE.MIT.EDU] has joined #go-nuts 01:20 -!- Gracenotes [~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:22 -!- rhelmer_ [~rhelmer@adsl-69-107-85-160.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:23 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-69-107-85-160.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:23 -!- ak2 [~ak2@nat/cisco/x-cwxzbcvsbwoanioo] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:30 -!- Gracenotes [~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has joined #go-nuts 01:33 -!- robbrit [~rob@modemcable171.100-176-173.mc.videotron.ca] has left #go-nuts [] 01:37 -!- Xeon [~chatzilla@118.126.12.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:44 -!- Xeon [~chatzilla@118.126.12.54] has joined #go-nuts 01:46 -!- nettok [~netto@proxy.galileo.edu] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 01:52 -!- ikke [~ikke@unaffiliated/ikkebr] has quit [] 01:52 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@128.189.91.94] has joined #go-nuts 02:06 -!- jwillia3 [~jwillia3@71.23.157.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:06 -!- tor5 [~tor@mb90f36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:12 -!- ako [~nya@g226149224.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: EXEC_over.METHOD_SUBLIMATION] 02:13 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@208.87.61.146] has joined #go-nuts 02:18 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@208.87.61.146] has quit [Quit: carllerche] 02:27 -!- mikespook [~mikespook@219.136.141.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:27 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:33 -!- freetz [~fritz@ip70-189-120-217.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:36 -!- pssw0rt [~death@186.104.6.64] has joined #go-nuts 02:37 < pssw0rt> go sucks 02:37 -!- pssw0rt [~death@186.104.6.64] has left #go-nuts ["Leaving"] 02:42 -!- Amaranth [~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:43 -!- powerje [~powerje@2002:4b31:11ce:0:213:e8ff:feaa:ae2b] has quit [Quit: exit] 02:46 -!- e4f6217c2e [~vk@adsl-210-137-69.sdf.bellsouth.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:46 < exch> thanks for that brilliant and enlightening insight :p 02:47 < freetz> he should really list his concerns on the issues list... 02:54 -!- nocturnal [~nocturnal@83.209.24.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:57 -!- e4f6217c2e [~vk@adsl-210-137-69.sdf.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:01 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.152.17] has joined #go-nuts 03:08 -!- tor5 [~tor@mb90f36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Quit: tor5] 03:08 -!- jwillia3 [~jwillia3@71.23.157.238] has joined #go-nuts 03:14 -!- nettok_ [~netto@200.119.152.17] has joined #go-nuts 03:15 -!- yatoo [~marcus@host86-156-158-180.range86-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:16 -!- freetz [~fritz@ip70-189-120-217.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 03:18 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.152.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:24 -!- nettok_ [~netto@200.119.152.17] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 03:25 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.152.17] has joined #go-nuts 03:26 < plexdev> http://is.gd/aJebu by [Russ Cox] in go/src/pkg/runtime/ -- runtime: lock finalizer table accesses 03:27 -!- Amaranth [~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #go-nuts 03:28 -!- d_m [~d_m@207.245.124.125] has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:38 -!- d_m [~d_m@207.245.124.125] has joined #go-nuts 03:42 < plexdev> http://is.gd/aJf09 by [David Symonds] in go/misc/vim/ -- Add new complex types, functions and literals to Vim syntax file. 03:45 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has joined #go-nuts 03:51 -!- nddrylliog [~nddryllio@dhcp-83-219-110-64.customers.tvtnet.ch] has joined #go-nuts 03:51 -!- nddrylliog [~nddryllio@dhcp-83-219-110-64.customers.tvtnet.ch] has left #go-nuts ["Leaving"] 03:51 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.152.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:05 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@128.189.91.94] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:10 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-127-80.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:10 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.152.17] has joined #go-nuts 04:21 -!- General13372 [~support@71-84-247-187.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 04:24 < hstimer_> can you defer functions that return values? defer _ := os.Close(f) 04:24 -!- General1337 [~support@71-84-247-187.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:26 <+iant> you can just write defer os.Close(f) 04:26 <+iant> the return value will be discarded 04:30 < hstimer_> cool. thx 04:37 -!- Amaranth [~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:43 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.219.108] has quit [] 04:43 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.219.108] has joined #go-nuts 04:46 -!- BlackBook [~sjs@kernel-panic/member/TiBook] has joined #go-nuts 04:49 -!- nettok_ [~netto@200.119.152.17] has joined #go-nuts 04:50 -!- Amaranth [~travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #go-nuts 04:53 -!- nettok [~netto@200.119.152.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:01 < BlackBook> Having problems with net.LookupHost -- I must be doing something dumb... 05:01 < BlackBook> http://pastebin.com/dV1n75tA 05:03 -!- nettok__ [~netto@200.119.152.17] has joined #go-nuts 05:03 -!- jwillia3_ [~jwillia3@71.23.157.238] has joined #go-nuts 05:07 -!- nettok_ [~netto@200.119.152.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:07 -!- merlin83 [~merlin83@unaffiliated/merlin83] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:07 -!- jwillia3 [~jwillia3@71.23.157.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:08 * BlackBook downloads wireshark 05:08 -!- tps_ [~tps@hoasb-ff08dd00-36.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 05:09 -!- tps_ [~tps@hoasb-ff08dd00-36.dhcp.inet.fi] has left #go-nuts ["Leaving"] 05:11 < BlackBook> Anyone care to point out the obvious thing I'm screwing up? 05:11 < cbeck> It's working for me 05:12 < cbeck> Might be wonky DNS on your network 05:12 < BlackBook> So it's not the code, it's something in the local network then. 05:12 < anticw> BlackBook: what os? 05:12 < BlackBook> OS X. 05:12 < cbeck> I'm on linux 05:12 < anticw> there has been noise about LookupNet failures 05:12 < anticw> on OS X 05:13 < anticw> disable the firewall ... does that help? 05:14 < plexdev> http://is.gd/aJjZl by [Robert Griesemer] in go/src/pkg/image/jpeg/ -- image/jpeg: fix typos 05:15 -!- Macpunk [~macpunk@2002:48b1:1add:0:eee:e6ff:fec7:7eaa] has joined #go-nuts 05:16 -!- merlin83 [~merlin83@cm24.delta241.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #go-nuts 05:16 -!- merlin83 [~merlin83@cm24.delta241.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Changing host] 05:16 -!- merlin83 [~merlin83@unaffiliated/merlin83] has joined #go-nuts 05:17 -!- Macpunk [~macpunk@2002:48b1:1add:0:eee:e6ff:fec7:7eaa] has quit [Client Quit] 05:21 < BlackBook> anticw, indeed. But not really a useful solution, alas. At least I'm not screwing up the really simple code. 05:21 < anticw> does that help? 05:21 < anticw> if it does it would be good to know 05:21 < BlackBook> yes, the code works with the firewall disabled. 05:22 < anticw> ok, so we should try to figure out why it works on way and not the other 05:23 < BlackBook> yup. 05:24 < anticw> can you tcpdump it working? 05:24 < anticw> and maybe not working? 05:24 < anticw> tcpdump -s2000 -w working.pcap port 53 05:24 < anticw> and similar 05:25 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has quit [Ping timeout: 259 seconds] 05:25 * BlackBook puts away wireshark 05:26 < BlackBook> Okay, let me generate some data. 05:26 < anticw> if there is something obvious about a working (fw off), non-working (fw on) and working (fw on, from ping) case then maybe there is a simple fix 05:26 < anticw> the mcapple i have here shows no problems 05:32 -!- kaib [~kaib@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1bc000-102.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 05:36 < BlackBook> anticw, http://www.stremler.net/temp/GoLang/pcap/ 05:36 < BlackBook> (or http://www.stremler.net/temp/GoLang/pcap.tar) 05:38 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:38 -!- robot12 [~robot12@robot12.kgts.ru] has joined #go-nuts 05:38 -!- robot12 [~robot12@robot12.kgts.ru] has left #go-nuts [] 05:39 < anticw> BlackBook: is this 10.6 ? 05:39 < BlackBook> anticw, 10.5 05:42 -!- robot12 [~robot12@robot12.kgts.ru] has joined #go-nuts 05:42 < anticw> BlackBook: do you know if the packets seen inbound make it to the go app? 05:42 < BlackBook> anticw, it does not appear so, as the app just sits there until it times out. 05:42 < anticw> but you never traced it? 05:43 -!- robot12 [~robot12@robot12.kgts.ru] has left #go-nuts [] 05:43 < BlackBook> anticw, not yet. I'm just fooling around getting a feel for the language, haven't gone into looking up Dscript syntax. 05:46 < BlackBook> anticw, Nor am I very familiar with the toolset yet. 05:46 < anticw> dtrace i think 05:46 < anticw> or ktrace 05:46 < anticw> i always forget 05:46 < BlackBook> Dtrace is the tool, Dscript is the language used by Dtrace. 05:48 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@d64-180-45-230.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:48 < anticw> you dont need to go that far 05:49 < BlackBook> I need to set *some* probes. 05:50 < anticw> no 05:51 -!- fwiffo_ [~fwiffo@189.115.9.140] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 05:57 -!- robot12 [~robot12@robot12.kgts.ru] has joined #go-nuts 05:59 -!- nocturnal [~nocturnal@83.209.24.174] has joined #go-nuts 06:02 < anticw> BlackBook: sorry, i thought there was some wrapper to make it work like ktrace ... i was sure i used it in the past 06:02 -!- robot12 [~robot12@robot12.kgts.ru] has left #go-nuts [] 06:02 < anticw> i'm pretty forgetful now though so who knows 06:03 -!- Garen [~garen.p@cpe-75-87-255-36.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 06:05 -!- TR2N [email@89-180-137-177.net.novis.pt] has left #go-nuts [] 06:06 -!- nettok__ [~netto@200.119.152.17] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 06:09 -!- meegee [~user@78.190.86.226] has joined #go-nuts 06:10 -!- Beoran [~beoran@ip-213-49-113-248.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:12 -!- Kyle|Mr_K_13 [~Kyle@122-148-63-115.static.dsl.dodo.com.au] has joined #go-nuts 06:15 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-74-96-89-29.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 06:22 -!- Beoran [~beoran@ip-81-11-180-60.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #go-nuts 06:23 < BlackBook> anticw, I'm sure there is, somewhere. :) 06:25 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:30 -!- m-takagi [~m-takagi@linode.m-takagi.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:30 -!- jessta [~jessta@li7-205.members.linode.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:30 -!- kuroneko [~chris@yayoi.xware.cx] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:30 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:31 -!- Ycros [~ycros@gnaw.yi.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:32 -!- jessta [~jessta@li7-205.members.linode.com] has joined #go-nuts 06:32 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@208.87.61.146] has joined #go-nuts 06:32 -!- m-takagi [~m-takagi@linode.m-takagi.jp] has joined #go-nuts 06:32 -!- xorl [~xorl@eon.slack.in] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:32 -!- xorl [~xorl@eon.slack.in] has joined #go-nuts 06:32 -!- Ycros [~ycros@gnaw.yi.org] has joined #go-nuts 06:32 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@208.87.61.146] has quit [Client Quit] 06:34 -!- Beorann [~9dc1cb2f@gateway/web/freenode/x-pfgrimzbqujembcj] has joined #go-nuts 06:37 -!- trickie [~trickie@86.93.227.181] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 06:37 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined #go-nuts 06:40 -!- prip [~foo@host203-129-dynamic.35-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:53 -!- prip [~foo@host194-125-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #go-nuts 06:53 -!- ShadowIce [pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has joined #go-nuts 06:56 -!- lmoura [~lauromour@200.184.118.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:56 -!- Adys [~Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:57 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:58 -!- Garen [~garen.p@cpe-75-87-255-36.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [] 07:00 -!- kaib [~kaib@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1bc000-102.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: kaib] 07:01 -!- Adys [~Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has joined #go-nuts 07:03 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@208.87.61.146] has joined #go-nuts 07:04 < BlackBook> anticw, thanks for the heads-up on the firewall. 07:06 < anticw> BlackBook: np, ill try to make a note to debug this here 07:06 < anticw> BlackBook: i dont see it, but i have a local nameserver 07:07 < anticw> i dont see why that should matter but who knows 07:08 -!- kaib [~kaib@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1bc000-102.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 07:08 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@208.87.61.146] has quit [Quit: carllerche] 07:09 -!- kaib [~kaib@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1bc000-102.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Client Quit] 07:10 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: nchaimov] 07:11 -!- nchaimov [~cowtown@c-71-237-208-209.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 07:14 -!- kaib [~kaib@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1bc000-102.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 07:14 -!- BlackBook [~sjs@kernel-panic/member/TiBook] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:19 -!- BlackBook [~sjs@kernel-panic/member/TiBook] has joined #go-nuts 07:20 -!- meegee` [~user@78.190.88.153] has joined #go-nuts 07:21 -!- meegee [~user@78.190.86.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:26 -!- BlackBook [~sjs@kernel-panic/member/TiBook] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 07:27 -!- trickie [~trickie@94.100.112.225] has joined #go-nuts 07:28 -!- trickie [~trickie@94.100.112.225] has quit [Client Quit] 07:29 -!- trickie [~trickie@94.100.112.225] has joined #go-nuts 07:29 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@d64-180-45-230.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:34 -!- m1ndwarp [~m1ndwarp@90-123.eduroam.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has joined #go-nuts 07:36 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-74-96-89-29.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 07:39 -!- Xeon_ [~chatzilla@118.126.12.54] has joined #go-nuts 07:40 -!- Xeon [~chatzilla@118.126.12.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:41 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:43 -!- nf [~nf@124-170-121-16.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:43 -!- nf [~nf@124-171-3-183.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #go-nuts 07:44 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has joined #go-nuts 07:51 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 07:55 -!- meegee` [~user@78.190.88.153] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:11 -!- kssreeram [~kssreeram@122.174.128.198] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:11 -!- kssreeram [~kssreeram@122.174.128.198] has joined #go-nuts 08:12 -!- drry [~drry@unaffiliated/drry] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:21 -!- ikaros [~ikaros@f051188210.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 08:29 -!- ak2 [~ak2@c-24-6-88-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 08:38 -!- rhelmer_ [~rhelmer@adsl-69-107-85-160.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 08:38 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-69-107-85-160.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:48 -!- mssm [~mssm@ip-95-221-126-214.bb.netbynet.ru] has joined #go-nuts 08:56 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has joined #go-nuts 08:59 -!- jwillia3 [~jwillia3@71.23.157.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:01 -!- path[l]_ [~path@59.162.86.164] has joined #go-nuts 09:04 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:08 -!- robot12 [~robot12@szhilkin.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #go-nuts 09:11 -!- robot12 [~robot12@szhilkin.broker.freenet6.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:12 -!- robot12 [~robot12@szhilkin.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #go-nuts 09:14 -!- kaigan|work [~kaigan@c-8290e255.1411-10-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #go-nuts 09:26 -!- mssm [~mssm@ip-95-221-126-214.bb.netbynet.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:36 -!- ct529 [~quassel@77-44-78-159.xdsl.murphx.net] has joined #go-nuts 09:37 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@88-148-243-167.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 09:41 -!- jwillia3 [~jwillia3@71.23.157.238] has joined #go-nuts 09:42 -!- c0nfl|ct [~tiago@83.240.134.68] has joined #go-nuts 09:58 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@88-148-243-167.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:02 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@88-148-243-167.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 10:04 -!- stalled [~stalled@unaffiliated/stalled] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:12 -!- drmegahertz [~drmegaher@79.99.3.34] has joined #go-nuts 10:14 -!- jA_cOp [~yakobu@unaffiliated/ja-cop/x-9478493] has joined #go-nuts 10:18 -!- ikaros [~ikaros@f051188210.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leave the magic to Houdini] 10:26 -!- stalled [~stalled@unaffiliated/stalled] has joined #go-nuts 10:28 -!- kaib [~kaib@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1bc000-102.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:29 -!- kaib [~kaib@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1bc000-102.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 10:30 < nocturnal> can you have multiple receivers for a function? 10:35 -!- kaib_ [~kaib@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1bc000-102.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 10:35 < uriel> nocturnal: ? 10:36 < uriel> you can have multiple readers from a channel 10:36 < uriel> and functions can return multiple values 10:36 < uriel> not sure if either is what you were asking for 10:37 -!- kaib [~kaib@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1bc000-102.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:37 -!- SRabbelier [~SRabbelie@ip138-114-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39 -!- kaib_ [~kaib@dsl-mlimmlgw1-ff1bc000-102.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Client Quit] 10:42 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-30-10-70.static.tfn.net.tw] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.1.1] 10:43 -!- m1ndwarp [~m1ndwarp@90-123.eduroam.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has quit [Quit: m1ndwarp] 10:52 -!- ct529 [~quassel@77-44-78-159.xdsl.murphx.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:57 < nocturnal> uriel: i meant receivers, func (r receiverType) fooBar { } 10:57 < nocturnal> but i'll just try a small example program that uses r receiverType, r2 receiverType 11:02 -!- fwiffo [~fwiffo@unaffiliated/fwiffo] has joined #go-nuts 11:05 -!- path[l]_ [~path@122.182.0.38] has joined #go-nuts 11:05 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:10 -!- kssreeram_ [~kssreeram@122.174.133.96] has joined #go-nuts 11:11 -!- kssreeram [~kssreeram@122.174.128.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:27 -!- ak2 [~ak2@c-24-6-88-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ak2] 11:27 -!- path[l] [~path@122.182.0.38] has quit [Quit: path[l]] 11:28 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has joined #go-nuts 11:29 -!- g0bl1n [~pr0kter@a213-22-184-90.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #go-nuts 11:42 -!- nighty^ [~nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke] 11:45 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@88-148-243-167.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:07 -!- yatoo [~marcus@host86-156-158-180.range86-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #go-nuts 12:08 -!- crashR [~crasher@codextreme.pck.nerim.net] has joined #go-nuts 12:09 < nocturnal> testpaket.go:25: method has multiple receivers 12:09 < nocturnal> hmm obviously you can't 12:14 -!- wrtp_ [~rog@78.148.233.118] has joined #go-nuts 12:15 -!- wrtp [~rog@78.148.233.118] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:18 -!- noam [~k4jd095b@87.70.183.61] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:18 -!- noam [~k4jd095b@87.70.183.61] has joined #go-nuts 12:19 -!- wrtp_ [~rog@78.148.233.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:19 -!- jwillia3 [~jwillia3@71.23.157.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:19 -!- afurlan [~afurlan@scorpion.mps.com.br] has joined #go-nuts 12:23 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@88-148-243-167.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 12:24 -!- lmoura [~lauromour@200.184.118.130] has joined #go-nuts 12:26 -!- nanoo [~nano@95-89-189-46-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 12:28 -!- cmarcelo [~cmarcelo@200.184.118.130] has joined #go-nuts 12:28 -!- cmarcelo [~cmarcelo@200.184.118.130] has quit [Changing host] 12:28 -!- cmarcelo [~cmarcelo@enlightenment/developer/cmarcelo] has joined #go-nuts 12:49 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@88-148-243-167.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:55 -!- jg [~jg@135.245.8.4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:56 < uriel> nocturnal: are you confusing methods with functions? 13:03 -!- doffus [~bd73007c@gateway/web/freenode/x-ffdewmzueghjlufd] has joined #go-nuts 13:04 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@p5B063FCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:05 -!- awidegreen_ [~quassel@pD9543A8C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:06 -!- reggna [~reggna@c-5ba372d5.015-28-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:07 -!- Tigge_ [~tigge@c-5ba372d5.015-28-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:08 -!- mbarkhau [~koloss@dslb-084-059-161-165.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #go-nuts 13:10 < nocturnal> uriel: perhaps, i was never so good at the english terms. 13:10 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.219.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:10 < nocturnal> but i've answered my own questions by simple trial and error 13:16 -!- iant [~iant@adsl-71-133-8-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:23 -!- hstimer_ [~hstimer@c-98-234-25-125.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:23 -!- hstimer [~hans@c-98-234-25-125.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:24 -!- hstimer [~hstimer@2002:62ea:197d:0:226:bbff:fe05:dd9b] has joined #go-nuts 13:34 -!- maht [~maht__@85.189.31.174.proweb.managedbroadband.co.uk] has joined #go-nuts 13:45 -!- vdrab [~vdrab@cap001-203.kcn.ne.jp] has joined #go-nuts 13:50 -!- drry [~drry@unaffiliated/drry] has joined #go-nuts 13:58 -!- jg [~jg@135.245.8.4] has joined #go-nuts 14:06 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 14:07 -!- iant [~iant@67.218.104.225] has joined #go-nuts 14:07 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v iant] by ChanServ 14:14 -!- wrtp [~rog@78.148.233.118] has joined #go-nuts 14:16 < hstimer> I suggest that we add ReadAt to some interfaces, or at least create new interfaces to include it in. Not everything is a stream. 14:19 -!- arun_ [~arun@unaffiliated/sindian] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:25 -!- ni|_ [~james@dontpanic.union.edu] has joined #go-nuts 14:27 -!- ni| [~james@dontpanic.union.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:34 -!- arun_ [~arun@unaffiliated/sindian] has joined #go-nuts 14:42 -!- hstimer [~hstimer@2002:62ea:197d:0:226:bbff:fe05:dd9b] has quit [Quit: hstimer] 14:51 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.223.246] has joined #go-nuts 14:51 -!- syd_ [~sydcogs@180.92.192.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:55 -!- c0nfl|ct [~tiago@83.240.134.68] has quit [Quit: Saindo] 14:55 -!- iant [~iant@67.218.104.225] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:55 -!- doffus [~bd73007c@gateway/web/freenode/x-ffdewmzueghjlufd] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:05 -!- iant [~iant@nat/google/x-wihearqziyywxymp] has joined #go-nuts 15:05 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v iant] by ChanServ 15:06 -!- syd_ [~sydcogs@180.92.192.92] has joined #go-nuts 15:10 -!- stalled [~stalled@unaffiliated/stalled] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:12 -!- ejb [~ejb@cpe-67-253-76-188.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 15:12 -!- ejb [~ejb@cpe-67-253-76-188.maine.res.rr.com] has quit [Changing host] 15:12 -!- ejb [~ejb@unaffiliated/ejb] has joined #go-nuts 15:13 -!- ejb [~ejb@unaffiliated/ejb] has left #go-nuts [] 15:23 -!- crashR [~crasher@codextreme.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:32 -!- path[l] [~path@59.162.86.164] has quit [Quit: path[l]] 15:32 -!- kssreeram_ [~kssreeram@122.174.143.48] has joined #go-nuts 15:33 -!- kssreeram [~kssreeram@122.174.133.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:39 -!- stalled [~stalled@unaffiliated/stalled] has joined #go-nuts 15:56 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 16:04 -!- sjbrown [~sjbrown@c-69-181-182-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:08 -!- ilsanto [~max@unaffiliated/ilsanto] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13 -!- path[l] [~path@122.182.0.38] has joined #go-nuts 16:14 -!- kaigan|work [~kaigan@c-8290e255.1411-10-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: kaigan|work] 16:21 -!- SRabbelier [~SRabbelie@ip138-114-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #go-nuts 16:21 -!- General1337 [~support@71-84-247-187.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 16:24 -!- General13372 [~support@71-84-247-187.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:28 -!- fusion44 [~quassel@p5B282FB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:29 -!- arun_ [~arun@unaffiliated/sindian] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:29 -!- ct529 [~quassel@77-44-78-159.xdsl.murphx.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:31 -!- jg [~jg@135.245.8.4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:38 -!- rhelmer_ [~rhelmer@adsl-69-107-85-160.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: rhelmer_] 16:43 -!- arun_ [~arun@unaffiliated/sindian] has joined #go-nuts 16:46 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:47 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@d64-180-45-230.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:47 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #go-nuts 16:50 -!- wrtp [~rog@78.148.233.118] has quit [Quit: wrtp] 16:55 -!- doffus [~bd73007c@gateway/web/freenode/x-juwbzzqedibyrsij] has joined #go-nuts 16:55 -!- ak2 [~ak2@c-24-6-88-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:57 -!- nanoo [~nano@95-89-189-46-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:57 -!- doffus [~bd73007c@gateway/web/freenode/x-juwbzzqedibyrsij] has left #go-nuts [] 16:58 -!- quotron [~bd73007c@gateway/web/freenode/x-xxlexgocbrzlkhsd] has joined #go-nuts 16:59 -!- trickie [~trickie@94.100.112.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:06 < quotron> http://pastie.org/872319 17:06 < quotron> is there a way to make this work? 17:06 < quotron> (besides using a type switch) 17:08 -!- path[l] [~path@122.182.0.38] has quit [Quit: path[l]] 17:13 < dagle> quotron: You want to find the struct A in B? 17:13 < Beoran> fmt.Println("y: ", e.(B).A.y) 17:14 < Beoran> if e is a B you must dynamically cast it to B 17:14 < dagle> I don't think he meant it like that. 17:14 < Beoran> however, oneway to solve this is by creating an accessor 17:14 < dagle> I think he is wanting to convert any type that contains A. 17:14 < dagle> To A. 17:14 < quotron> isn't B supposed to also work as A? or did i get this completely wrong? 17:15 < quotron> to be clear, what i want is some way to emulate specialization. 17:15 < Beoran> quotron, B /can/ work as a, but only for accesors 17:15 < Beoran> for methods I mean 17:15 < Beoran> so I'd do 17:16 < Beoran> func (a *A) X() { return a.x } ; func (a *A) Y() { return a.y } 17:16 < Beoran> then define your interface 17:17 < Beoran> type HasXY interface { X() (int) ; Y() (int) ; } 17:17 < Beoran> and pass that instead 17:17 < Beoran> if you really want to go fully generic, you'll have to use the reflect package 17:18 < quotron> the accessor thing is a bit clumsy but might work better for what i want, thanks 17:20 < Beoran> quotron, in Ruby , you need an accessor for /every/ class variable o want to be visible on the outside. 17:21 < Beoran> the overhead of an accessor is low,so I think it's a good approach 17:21 < jA_cOp> You can also use method_missing though 17:21 < quotron> what bothers me is the duplication 17:21 < Beoran> it has the benefit that it ensures that the people who use the struct can't do unexpected things with it. They have to go trhough the accessors you provide 17:22 < jA_cOp> quotron, the attr_reader, attr_writer and attr_accessor "global" functions are there to alleviate that 17:22 < Beoran> well, for a GUI I'm writing on top of SDL, I'm also writing a niny object system 17:23 < Beoran> jA_cOp, we're still talking Go language here, not Ruby, though (ruby was just an example) 17:23 < jA_cOp> err, I guess you were referring to Go 17:23 < quotron> jA_cOp: are you talking about go? 17:23 < jA_cOp> ya 17:23 < jA_cOp> nay 17:23 < jA_cOp> but I do still think it's worth being explicit about your Go type interfaces 17:24 < Beoran> if you're willing to pay the price, it's possible to implement a generic smalltalk/ruby like object system using the reflect package 17:25 < Beoran> I use a map[Message] Method where Method is type Method func(args ...interface{}) (interface{}) adnd Message can be an int or a string 17:25 -!- merlin83 [~merlin83@unaffiliated/merlin83] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:27 -!- g0bl1n [~pr0kter@a213-22-184-90.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:28 -!- ni|_ [~james@dontpanic.union.edu] has left #go-nuts [] 17:28 -!- ni| [~james@dontpanic.union.edu] has joined #go-nuts 17:28 < ni|> hey, i've made a few document changes and have done hg change and it has been pasted to the issues list -- however i haven't gotten an email to golang-dev 17:29 < Beoran> Look here to see how I did it: http://github.com/beoran/fungo/blob/master/gui/hanao.go 17:29 < quotron> thanks Beoran 17:29 < ni|> http://codereview.appspot.com/584041 17:30 < Beoran> it's Zlib license, so feel free to nick it, but give me credit :) 17:30 < quotron> actually, i'm having these problems with a little game that i'm trying to do. i might use your library :) 17:30 -!- merlin83 [~merlin83@cm24.delta241.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #go-nuts 17:30 -!- merlin83 [~merlin83@cm24.delta241.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Changing host] 17:30 -!- merlin83 [~merlin83@unaffiliated/merlin83] has joined #go-nuts 17:31 < Beoran> qtron oh, a fellow game programmer 17:32 < Beoran> quotron, what os are you on, and is it 64 bits. 17:32 < Beoran> I need someone to test for me the 64 bits mode 17:32 < Beoran> I have a hunch that keyboard events won't work well there 17:32 < quotron> linux, but here it's 32bit, at home i have a 64bit machine 17:32 < Beoran> quotron, if you could test it at home and sens me a bug report rthough github that would be fine :) 17:33 < Beoran> what kind of game are you programming, in fact 17:33 < quotron> Beoran: sure, but it will be a long way until i have something to draw on the screen :P 17:33 < Beoran> oh, I see 17:33 < quotron> trying to implement my first roguelike 17:34 < Beoran> but there is a test program included in fungo 17:34 < Beoran> ah, I see 17:34 < Beoran> well, you could start by using curses, though 17:34 < Beoran> has that been wrapped??? 17:34 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.223.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:35 < quotron> not that i know of, but someone might have done it 17:35 < quotron> it's popular enough 17:35 < ni|> nvm i can see he has it 17:35 < quotron> and yeah, until i have the art work, i'll have to suffer with curses 17:36 < Beoran> http://github.com/jabb/gocurse 17:36 < Beoran> or, you could use my lib with SDL and use the ttf functions :) 17:37 < Beoran> oh, and there are free open source roguelike tiles available 17:37 < quotron> oh, you have ttf 17:37 < quotron> i'll do that 17:39 < Beoran> http://rltiles.sourceforge.net/ 17:39 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:39 < Beoran> those tiles atre not that pretty, but good enough for starting out 17:39 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-79-178-8-174.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:40 < Beoran> and I just happen to be working on a tile.Map also :) 17:40 < Beoran> although for a rogualike a tile.Layer will be enough, I guess. 17:41 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@enginey-9.border1.sfo002.pnap.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:42 -!- Project_2501 [~Marvin@82.84.69.99] has joined #go-nuts 17:42 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@bzq-79-176-67-80.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:44 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.223.246] has joined #go-nuts 17:44 < quotron> hah, those tiles are familiar :) 17:46 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@109.67.55.85] has joined #go-nuts 17:47 -!- rajmahendra [~rajmahend@122.164.190.41] has joined #go-nuts 17:47 < rajmahendra> I like to install Go in my fedora how can i install ? 17:47 < Beoran> quotron, yes, but why not use them for starting? :) 17:48 < Beoran> rajmahendra, first you need to install hg (mercurial) 17:48 < Beoran> then you have to pull the golang repository and compile 17:48 < rajmahendra> Beoran, can you give me the commands i am new to fedora. 17:48 < Beoran> it's all described well on the web page here: 17:49 < Beoran> http://golang.org/doc/install.html 17:49 < rajmahendra> thank you :) 17:49 -!- jajamana [~jcb@cm-84.215.40.160.getinternet.no] has joined #go-nuts 17:49 < Beoran> in stead of apt-get , use yum install, though 17:49 -!- Demp [~Demp@bzq-79-178-8-174.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:50 < Beoran> apt-get is debian/ubuntu specific 17:50 -!- jcb_ [~jcb@cm-84.215.40.160.getinternet.no] has joined #go-nuts 17:50 -!- jcb_ [~jcb@cm-84.215.40.160.getinternet.no] has quit [Client Quit] 17:52 < rajmahendra> Can i use Web development with Go i am a Java programmer 17:52 < nocturnal> http package is pretty nice 17:52 < nocturnal> i can't wait to use it for something 17:53 -!- TMKCodes [~toni@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-62.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #go-nuts 17:53 < uriel> if you are 'a Java programmer' it will probably require a considerable amount of 'unlearning' 17:54 -!- Demp_ [~Demp@109.67.55.85] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:54 -!- Demp [~Demp@109.67.55.85] has joined #go-nuts 17:55 < Beoran> java types are like branches of a tre. Go types are like trees in a mixed forest. 17:55 < rajmahendra> uriel i can do unlearning for google :) 17:55 < KirkMcDonald> Google? Never heard of it. 17:56 < Beoran> I know dozens of programming languages, but Go is so far the second most convenient language I have used, (Ruby is nr 1). And it's the most convenient one that is compiled to machine code. 17:57 < KirkMcDonald> Ruby makes me nervous. 17:57 < uriel> rajmahendra: I wouldn't do much unlearning for google's sake, you could end up stuck with some really evil fucked up shit (wave for example) 18:01 -!- jankoprowski [~594d03b5@gateway/web/freenode/x-crlrvizpuqsqfbqh] has joined #go-nuts 18:01 < jankoprowski> Hi 18:02 < Beoran> KirkMcDonald, Ruby is very Japanese: designed in the first place to e convenient for the programmer. Secondly, slightly crazy. 18:02 < Beoran> hi, jankoprowski 18:03 -!- sjbrown [~sjbrown@c-69-181-182-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:03 < Beoran> I also think Python is typically Dutch: quite hung up on rules and doing it their own way 18:03 < Beoran> but clean 18:04 < jankoprowski> I have question to testing 18:04 < jankoprowski> I can't make file 18:04 < jankoprowski> for make.cmd 18:04 < Beoran> yes? 18:04 < jankoprowski> with testing 18:04 < jankoprowski> When my Makaefile 18:05 < jankoprowski> err, Makefile 18:05 < jankoprowski> include make.cmd 18:05 < dagle> I wanted to program a project in lisp. But everybody looked strange at me when I said that. :S 18:05 < Beoran> hmmm, jankoprowski I don't tink I quite understand what is going wrong. Could you pastie some 18:05 < jankoprowski> yeap 18:05 < Beoran> dagle list is the language with the most powerful semantics and the must useless syntax 18:05 -!- Demp [~Demp@109.67.55.85] has quit [] 18:05 < Beoran> lisp I mean 18:06 < dagle> Beoran: Well, no body have done anything more then a couple of hello world-like examples. 18:06 < dagle> Of us. 18:07 < dagle> I want to try to do something bigger in it. 18:07 < Beoran> I tried to write some scheme macros for the Gimp ... no fun :p 18:07 < dagle> But I guess it will end up being written in java. :/ 18:07 < Beoran> dagle Ruby has several semantical features of lisp :) 18:07 < jankoprowski> http://pastebin.com/7PNLBLE7 18:07 < Beoran> and it's syntax is more palatable 18:08 -!- Demp [~Demp@109.67.55.85] has joined #go-nuts 18:08 < Beoran> and there is Jruby which works fine on the JVM 18:09 < jankoprowski> My make file told me there is no rule to make test 18:09 < jankoprowski> but there is file with test 18:10 < uriel> jankoprowski: http://golang.org/cmd/gotest/ 18:10 < Beoran> hmm.. strange. I'm afraid that I had the same problem and haven't found a solution for it yet :p 18:10 < jankoprowski> test 18:10 < jankoprowski> It looks like 18:10 < jankoprowski> test work only for make.pkg 18:10 < jankoprowski> And doesn't work for make.cmd 18:11 < jankoprowski> When last line of makefile include make.pkg 18:11 -!- Demp [~Demp@109.67.55.85] has quit [Client Quit] 18:11 < jankoprowski> all works well but! 18:11 < jankoprowski> I don't get "lab" binary file 18:19 < jankoprowski> So ... 18:19 < jankoprowski> Is this true 18:19 < jankoprowski> The only way 18:20 < jankoprowski> is to make unit tests 18:20 < jankoprowski> is create package 18:20 < jankoprowski> ? 18:20 < uriel> shouldn't pretty mcuh everything be in a package? 18:21 < Beoran> uriel, aha! indeed! 18:21 <+iant> unit tests can be in the same package or in a different test package 18:21 < jankoprowski> This is strange 18:22 < jankoprowski> When i write something 18:22 < jankoprowski> this is program 18:22 < jankoprowski> not lib 18:22 < jankoprowski> and I need main() in binary 18:22 < jankoprowski> I can't do this in package 18:22 < jankoprowski> so I must write external package 18:22 <+iant> In Go, everything is in a package 18:22 <+iant> even main() is in the package called "main" 18:23 <+iant> most Go tests today do not use a main() function, they use the testing package 18:23 <+iant> and the gotest script 18:24 < jankoprowski> I can't get it 18:24 < jankoprowski> w8 18:24 < ShadowIce> would it be possible to write tests inside the main package and use gotest? 18:25 < jankoprowski> iant: I can't 18:25 < jankoprowski> iant: When my makefile is for package 18:25 < jankoprowski> I don't get 18:25 < jankoprowski> executable file 18:26 < jankoprowski> iant: So it isn't what i need 18:26 < jankoprowski> I need executable file 18:28 < KirkMcDonald> Write a second makefile. 18:29 < KirkMcDonald> (Okay, that may not be a very good solution.) 18:29 < jankoprowski> So I must have 18:30 < jankoprowski> program\main.go with Makefile.cmd and program\lib\Makefile.pkg ? 18:31 < ShadowIce> you could use gobuild, maybe... ;) 18:32 < jankoprowski> What is gobuild? 18:32 < jankoprowski> I don't see anything like this in http://golang.org/cmd/ 18:32 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has joined #go-nuts 18:32 < ShadowIce> http://code.google.com/p/gobuild/ 18:33 < jankoprowski> ShadowIce: This smell like workaround 18:33 < jankoprowski> I'am extremly curious of Google guys appointment 18:34 < KirkMcDonald> So what does gobuild do? Crawl all of the .go files under a directory tree, and look for 'package' lines? 18:34 -!- ikaros [~ikaros@f052089139.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 18:34 < ShadowIce> KirkMcDonald: sort of, it parses all .go files and build a dep-graph, then looks for what it must compile and creates either executables or .a files 18:34 < ShadowIce> +s 18:35 < KirkMcDonald> ShadowIce: What does "all .go files" mean in this context? 18:36 < ShadowIce> all files that end in ".go" 18:36 < KirkMcDonald> Yes, but where? Under a given directory? 18:37 < KirkMcDonald> Recursively looking through subdirectories? 18:37 < ShadowIce> yes 18:37 < KirkMcDonald> Then yes, that's what I said. 18:37 < ShadowIce> starting with the current dir 18:38 < jankoprowski> So 18:38 < ShadowIce> yes, but it doesn't "look for package lines", or at least not in the code I wrote 18:38 < KirkMcDonald> I can think of at least one problem with this approach. 18:38 < jankoprowski> When I create package? 18:38 < KirkMcDonald> ShadowIce: It doesn't? Then how does it know which .go files belong to which package? 18:38 < ShadowIce> it uses go/parser 18:38 < jankoprowski> buy :) 18:38 < KirkMcDonald> Same thing. 18:38 < jankoprowski> Good night :] 18:38 < ShadowIce> (which looks for those lines ;)) 18:38 -!- jankoprowski [~594d03b5@gateway/web/freenode/x-crlrvizpuqsqfbqh] has quit [] 18:38 <+iant> jankoprowski: all the existing Go packages have tests 18:39 <+iant> whoops, too late 18:39 < KirkMcDonald> ShadowIce: Consider a package which contains a directory with a number of examples. 18:40 < KirkMcDonald> Each example consists of a single .go file, each belonging to its own 'main' package, each containing its own main function. 18:40 -!- path[l] [UPP@120.138.102.34] has quit [Quit: path[l]] 18:42 < ShadowIce> that wouldn't be a problem. If you just call "gobuild" it'll give you a list of possible targets, or if you call "gobuild -a" it will build all examples 18:42 < ShadowIce> the only problem occures if there are two files belonging to the main package and both of them have something with the same name 18:42 < ShadowIce> and no main function of course 18:42 < KirkMcDonald> Ah. 18:42 < KirkMcDonald> I see. 18:43 < KirkMcDonald> I would also predict issues if you just have extraneous files sitting around. 18:45 < ShadowIce> only for files with main functions. If you have for example two versions of a file from package "file" that are just copies of each other you'll run into problems 18:46 < KirkMcDonald> Or two files, both claiming to be part of package "pkg", which both define a function "foo", yes? 18:46 < ShadowIce> exactly 18:47 < KirkMcDonald> Or a file which claims to be part of package "pkg", which you don't actually want any more, but which defines an init() function which... does stuff. 18:47 < ShadowIce> yep 18:48 -!- fusion44 [~quassel@p5B282FB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50 -!- ak2 [~ak2@c-24-6-88-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ak2] 18:51 < KirkMcDonald> Or: You have a package with a number of users, and at some point you remove a feature, and this involves removing a source files 18:51 -!- meanburrito920_ [~john@unaffiliated/meanburrito920] has joined #go-nuts 18:51 < KirkMcDonald> But one of your users was lazy and just extracted the tarball with the new version of the source over the old version's source. 18:52 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-71-139-219-78.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:52 < KirkMcDonald> So then *their* package, which uses the removed feature, continues to work! 18:52 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-71-139-219-78.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:52 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-71-139-219-78.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:52 < KirkMcDonald> (Or at least appears to work, or in any even compiles.) 18:53 < KirkMcDonald> But then users of this other package complain that it no longer builds, because they have a proper version of that first package. 18:53 < KirkMcDonald> s/any even/any event/ 18:53 -!- sjbrown [~sjbrown@dsl081-072-059.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:00 -!- Xera^ [~brit@87-194-208-246.bethere.co.uk] has joined #go-nuts 19:03 -!- rajmahendra [~rajmahend@122.164.190.41] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:11 -!- ct529 [~quassel@77-44-78-159.xdsl.murphx.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18 -!- ak2 [~ak2@soenat3.cse.ucsc.edu] has joined #go-nuts 19:26 -!- Gracenotes [~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:28 -!- nettok [~netto@proxy.galileo.edu] has joined #go-nuts 19:31 -!- nanoo [~nano@95-89-189-46-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 19:33 -!- it_diver [~it_diver@dslb-088-068-233-021.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:42 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has joined #go-nuts 19:44 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-71-139-219-78.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: rhelmer] 19:47 -!- ak2 [~ak2@soenat3.cse.ucsc.edu] has quit [Quit: ak2] 19:50 -!- nettok [~netto@proxy.galileo.edu] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:57 -!- fwiffo [~fwiffo@unaffiliated/fwiffo] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:01 -!- quotron [~bd73007c@gateway/web/freenode/x-xxlexgocbrzlkhsd] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:01 -!- mbarkhau [~koloss@dslb-084-059-161-165.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:02 -!- meanburrito920_ [~john@unaffiliated/meanburrito920] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:04 -!- meanburrito920_ [~john@unaffiliated/meanburrito920] has joined #go-nuts 20:12 -!- jA_cOp [~yakobu@unaffiliated/ja-cop/x-9478493] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:13 -!- jA_cOp [~yakobu@unaffiliated/ja-cop/x-9478493] has joined #go-nuts 20:20 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-71-139-219-78.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:20 -!- ak2 [~ak2@nat/cisco/x-jcgkdfixyyrxolkm] has joined #go-nuts 20:36 < plexdev> http://is.gd/aKXss by [Conrad Meyer] in go/src/pkg/crypto/sha512/ -- sha512: add sha384 (truncated version) 20:36 < plexdev> http://is.gd/aKXsv by [Anthony Starks] in go/misc/bbedit/ -- misc/bbedit: support for cmplx, real, imag 20:46 -!- it_diver [~it_diver@dslb-088-068-233-021.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:47 -!- LuitvD [~luitvd@beigetower/luitvd] has joined #go-nuts 20:52 < plexdev> http://is.gd/aKYln by [Petar Maymounkov] in go/src/pkg/http/ -- http: add ParseQuery 20:54 -!- TR2N [email@89-180-153-245.net.novis.pt] has joined #go-nuts 20:54 -!- andbelo [~ab@c-68-39-199-20.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:56 -!- nanooo [~nano@95-89-189-46-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 20:59 -!- nanoo [~nano@95-89-189-46-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:06 -!- andbelo [~ab@c-68-39-199-20.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has left #go-nuts [] 21:10 -!- afurlan [~afurlan@scorpion.mps.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.223.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:18 -!- Project_2501 [~Marvin@82.84.69.99] has quit [Quit: E se abbasso questa leva che succ...] 21:23 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.223.246] has joined #go-nuts 21:24 -!- Zupino [~marco.zun@ppp-173-103.21-151.libero.it] has joined #go-nuts 21:24 < plexdev> http://is.gd/aL0kz by [Russ Cox] in go/src/pkg/net/ -- net: fix IPMask.String not to crash on all-0xff mask 21:24 < plexdev> http://is.gd/aL0kF by [Robert Griesemer] in 4 subdirs of go/ -- godoc: initial support for showing popup information 21:27 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.223.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:28 -!- Zupino [~marco.zun@ppp-173-103.21-151.libero.it] has left #go-nuts [] 21:30 -!- marcozeta [~marco.zun@ppp-173-103.21-151.libero.it] has joined #go-nuts 21:31 -!- marcozeta [~marco.zun@ppp-173-103.21-151.libero.it] has left #go-nuts [] 21:31 -!- marcozeta [~marco.zun@ppp-173-103.21-151.libero.it] has joined #go-nuts 21:31 < marcozeta> good evening to evryone 21:32 < marcozeta> and thank you @iant 21:32 -!- OpenSpace [~ja@109.93.142.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:33 -!- OpenSpace [~ja@109.93.142.111] has joined #go-nuts 21:34 < marcozeta> I have some trubles with interfaces 21:36 -!- jwillia3 [~jwillia3@71.23.157.238] has joined #go-nuts 21:37 -!- nanooo [~nano@95-89-189-46-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:37 -!- LuitvD [~luitvd@beigetower/luitvd] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:38 -!- matehat [~matehat@poste120-171.wl.t.ulaval.ca] has joined #go-nuts 21:39 <+iant> marcozeta: what is your question? 21:39 -!- meanburrito920_ [~john@unaffiliated/meanburrito920] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:40 < marcozeta> I defined an interface, than I implement interface's method fot other types but they didn't became implementation of that interface 21:40 < marcozeta> i post my code to be clear 21:40 < marcozeta> just a moment 21:43 < marcozeta> http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1894063537 21:43 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.223.246] has joined #go-nuts 21:43 < marcozeta> here is the code 21:44 < marcozeta> bin.cakephp.org is a tool to temporary publishing of source doce snippet 21:44 -!- matehat [~matehat@poste120-171.wl.t.ulaval.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:45 <+iant> what goes wrong? 21:45 < marcozeta> you can see note at the begging of the page 21:46 < marcozeta> anyway the problem is that it doesn't compile 21:46 <+iant> you are using *PacketComposite where you should just use PackageComposite 21:46 < marcozeta> Packet didn't became a PacketInterface implementation evenif I implement for Packet the right method 21:46 <+iant> *PackageComposite is a pointer to an interface value 21:46 <+iant> you just want an interface value 21:47 -!- gnuvince [~vince@64.235.207.53] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:47 -!- gnuvince [~vince@64.235.207.53] has joined #go-nuts 21:48 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.223.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:53 < marcozeta> I found out 21:53 < marcozeta> I implemented the method, but I forget to declare p1, p2, p3 as PacketComposite (the interface) and than create the Packet with 21:53 < marcozeta> p1 = new(Packet) 21:54 < marcozeta> now it's compiling 21:55 -!- jajamana [~jcb@cm-84.215.40.160.getinternet.no] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:56 < marcozeta> ... and it works 21:56 -!- ak2 [~ak2@nat/cisco/x-jcgkdfixyyrxolkm] has quit [Quit: ak2] 21:56 < marcozeta> it was an attempt to implement Composite design pattern in Go language 21:58 -!- hstimer [~hstimer@2002:465a:aa25:0:226:bbff:fe05:dd9b] has joined #go-nuts 21:59 -!- werdan7 [~w7@freenode/staff/wikimedia.werdan7] has quit [Ping timeout: 619 seconds] 22:01 -!- ak2 [~ak2@soenat3.cse.ucsc.edu] has joined #go-nuts 22:03 -!- m1ndwarp [~m1ndwarp@vpn-eu1.unidsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 22:05 -!- ak2 [~ak2@soenat3.cse.ucsc.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:05 -!- matehat [~matehat@poste120-171.wl.t.ulaval.ca] has joined #go-nuts 22:06 -!- Wiz126 [Wiz126@72.20.221.157] has joined #go-nuts 22:07 -!- arun_ [~arun@unaffiliated/sindian] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:07 -!- werdan7 [~w7@freenode/staff/wikimedia.werdan7] has joined #go-nuts 22:07 -!- arun_ [~arun@unaffiliated/sindian] has joined #go-nuts 22:08 -!- jajamana [~jcb@cm-84.215.40.160.getinternet.no] has joined #go-nuts 22:11 -!- ak2 [~ak2@nat/cisco/x-ipznewsefxrfqnai] has joined #go-nuts 22:12 -!- General13372 [~support@71-84-247-187.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 22:16 -!- General1337 [~support@71-84-247-187.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:16 -!- slashus2 [~slashus2@74-137-24-74.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #go-nuts 22:24 -!- scm [justme@d019042.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:24 -!- scm [justme@d019166.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #go-nuts 22:25 -!- m1ndwarp [~m1ndwarp@vpn-eu1.unidsl.de] has quit [Quit: m1ndwarp] 22:25 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:26 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 22:27 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:28 -!- kuroneko [~chris@yayoi.xware.cx] has joined #go-nuts 22:28 -!- marcozeta [~marco.zun@ppp-173-103.21-151.libero.it] has quit [] 22:29 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 22:29 -!- nutate [~rseymour@cacsag4.usc.edu] has joined #go-nuts 22:29 -!- nutate [~rseymour@cacsag4.usc.edu] has quit [Excess Flood] 22:32 -!- jwillia3_ [~jwillia3@71.23.157.238] has joined #go-nuts 22:35 -!- jwillia3 [~jwillia3@71.23.157.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:35 -!- _lahl [fusion@193.104.228.25] has joined #go-nuts 22:37 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37 -!- pjm0616 [~user@61.250.113.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:37 -!- lahl [fusion@193.104.228.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:37 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 22:38 -!- jwillia3 [~jwillia3@71.23.157.238] has left #go-nuts [] 22:38 -!- pjm0616 [~user@61.250.113.98] has joined #go-nuts 22:38 -!- niekie [quasselcor@CAcert/Assurer/niekie] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 22:39 -!- niekie [~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie] has joined #go-nuts 22:40 -!- nutate [~rseymour@cacsag4.usc.edu] has joined #go-nuts 22:42 -!- plexdev [~plexdev@arthur.espians.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:42 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:43 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 22:46 -!- meanburrito920_ [~john@unaffiliated/meanburrito920] has joined #go-nuts 22:47 -!- niekie [~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:47 -!- niekie [~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie] has joined #go-nuts 22:51 -!- smw [~stephen@pool-96-232-88-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:52 -!- samitheberber [~saada@melkinpaasi.cs.helsinki.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:52 -!- smw [~stephen@pool-96-232-88-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 22:53 -!- samitheberber [~saada@melkinpaasi.cs.helsinki.fi] has joined #go-nuts 22:53 -!- alus [~gah@64.13.131.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:53 -!- Bombe [~droden@freenet/developer/Bombe] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:55 -!- Bombe [~droden@weltgehirnmaschine.de] has joined #go-nuts 22:55 -!- TR2N [email@89-180-153-245.net.novis.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:58 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@enginey-9.border1.sfo002.pnap.net] has quit [Quit: carllerche] 23:00 -!- TR2N [email@89.180.153.245] has joined #go-nuts 23:02 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:03 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:07 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:07 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:07 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:07 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:07 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:07 -!- mkhDev [~chatzilla@bas7-kitchener06-1279328334.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #go-nuts 23:07 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:07 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:08 -!- uriel [~uriel@li43-28.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:08 -!- uriel [~uriel@li43-28.members.linode.com] has joined #go-nuts 23:08 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 23:09 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@208.87.61.146] has joined #go-nuts 23:09 -!- monty_hall [~sprague_r@adsl-75-51-120-92.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:11 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@208.87.61.146] has quit [Client Quit] 23:11 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@208.87.61.146] has joined #go-nuts 23:11 -!- aho [~nya@g226220042.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 23:11 -!- Luixsia [~Luixsia@AToulouse-254-1-56-161.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:13 -!- Xurix [~Luixsia@AToulouse-254-1-98-7.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #go-nuts 23:14 -!- ShadowIce [pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:14 -!- jajamana [~jcb@cm-84.215.40.160.getinternet.no] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:16 -!- carllerche [~carllerch@208.87.61.146] has quit [Quit: carllerche] 23:16 -!- jajamana [~jcb@cm-84.215.40.160.getinternet.no] has joined #go-nuts 23:17 -!- jessta [~jessta@li7-205.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:18 -!- jessta [~jessta@64.62.231.205] has joined #go-nuts 23:21 -!- pdusen [~pdusen@crob4-55.flint.umich.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:25 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@cpe-67-9-131-167.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 23:26 -!- Adys [~Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:27 -!- Adys [~Adys@unaffiliated/adys] has joined #go-nuts 23:31 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@adsl-71-139-219-78.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: rhelmer] 23:33 -!- OpenSpace [~ja@109.93.142.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:34 -!- alus [~gah@64.13.131.178] has joined #go-nuts 23:37 -!- mssm [~mssm@ip-95-221-69-201.bb.netbynet.ru] has joined #go-nuts 23:37 -!- jajamana [~jcb@cm-84.215.40.160.getinternet.no] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:42 -!- sjbrown [~sjbrown@dsl081-072-059.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:50 -!- mssm [~mssm@ip-95-221-69-201.bb.netbynet.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:50 -!- cmarcelo [~cmarcelo@enlightenment/developer/cmarcelo] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:51 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@d64-180-45-230.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:51 -!- Gracenotes [~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has joined #go-nuts 23:52 -!- OpenSpace [~ja@109.93.40.216] has joined #go-nuts 23:54 < hstimer> any reason why min and max are included somewhere? or am I just not finding them? 23:54 < hstimer> s/are/aren't/ 23:55 -!- hcatlin [~hcatlin@pdpc/supporter/professional/hcatlin] has quit [Quit: hcatlin] 23:56 < hstimer> ah, it looks like people are defining their own. odd 23:56 -!- vdrab [~vdrab@cap001-203.kcn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: vdrab] 23:56 -!- plexdev [~plexdev@arthur.espians.com] has joined #go-nuts --- Log closed Wed Mar 17 00:00:28 2010