--- Log opened Wed Dec 22 00:00:01 2010 00:00 -!- Wiz126 [~Wiz@24.229.245.72.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:09 -!- photron_ [~photron@port-92-201-27-116.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:10 -!- binarypie [~binarypie@c-75-68-156-178.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:24 -!- watr_ [~watr@66.183.100.58] has joined #go-nuts 00:30 -!- iant [~iant@nat/google/x-rswalbuqeovnvxff] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:30 -!- watr_ [~watr@66.183.100.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:33 < nsf> https://github.com/nsf/goal I've added more examples as well as few fixes 00:33 < nsf> surprisingly this stuff kinda works for me 00:34 < nsf> although usage guide is apparently missing 00:34 -!- iant [~iant@67.218.105.75] has joined #go-nuts 00:34 -!- mode/#go-nuts [+v iant] by ChanServ 00:36 -!- rhencke [~rhencke@ppp-70-247-243-221.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:43 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.59.164.136] has quit [Read error: 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ChanServ 16:07 -!- emjayess [~emjayess@pix1.i29.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:08 -!- niemeyer_ [~niemeyer@187.53.253.26] has joined #go-nuts 16:18 -!- sl [~sl@68-179-130-17.bsr-c9-d1.evv.dhcp.sigecom.net] has joined #go-nuts 16:21 -!- cirno [~cirno@77.232.15.216] has joined #go-nuts 16:26 -!- nettok [~quassel@200.119.184.8] has joined #go-nuts 16:28 -!- ios_ [~ios@180.191.94.79] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:31 < hokapoka> woha! it's dead in here today, 16:32 * hokapoka wonders if there's some great Go event he didn't hear about! 16:32 < aiju> everyone is too busy with serious work 16:32 < hokapoka> heh 16:32 < aiju> like me writing a rant about the GPL lol 16:35 < TheSeeker> ooh, goclipse updated to 0.0.18 16:35 < aiju> wtfi goclipse? 16:35 < aiju> don't tell me they put go into eclipse 16:35 < hokapoka> eclipe for go 16:35 < aiju> wow. 16:35 < aiju> is there .NET GO yet? 16:35 < hokapoka> I'm only guessing, I prefer text based editer. 16:35 < hokapoka> heh 16:36 < aiju> I prefer text editors which work 16:36 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@lawn-gw.rutgers.edu] has joined #go-nuts 16:36 -!- ct529 [~quassel@77-44-78-159.xdsl.murphx.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:36 < fuzzybyte> goclipse was horribly buggy on me at least. 16:36 < hokapoka> .go 16:36 < aiju> s/goclipse/eclipse 16:40 < KBme> +1 16:43 -!- petrux [~petrux@host16-224-static.53-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:43 -!- bortzmeyer [~bortzmeye@batilda.nic.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:44 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@lawn-gw.rutgers.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:49 -!- TheSeeker [~n@99-153-250-110.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 16:49 -!- shvntr [~shvntr@123.89.109.113] has quit [Quit: bye] 16:51 < Belg> What's the interface to let a type return a byte-slice, as in the equivalent to implementing the String() method to return a string? 16:55 < aiju> something like interface {byteslice() byte[]}? 16:55 < aiju> *Byteslice 16:56 < Belg> aiju: Perfect, thank you :) 17:05 -!- plainhao [~plainhao@208.75.85.237] has joined #go-nuts 17:18 -!- Project-2501 [~Marvin@82.84.65.235] has joined #go-nuts 17:18 < KBme> is there a way close(chan) can block? 17:19 < KBme> it's weird, I think it's blocking for me 17:21 -!- Project_2501 [~Marvin@dynamic-adsl-94-36-167-73.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:23 < KBme> hrrrrm either that or I screwed up my locking :P 17:26 < aiju> you shouldn't lock at all 17:26 < aiju> Go isn't about locking 17:26 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:32 < KBme> there is some stuff you need to lock if you have multiple goroutines 17:32 < KBme> like maps 17:32 < KBme> anyways, i gotta run right now 17:32 < KBme> laterz 17:34 -!- Project-2501 [~Marvin@82.84.65.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:36 -!- Project_2501 [~Marvin@82.84.65.235] has joined #go-nuts 17:38 -!- go-irc-c [~go-irc-ch@195-132-97-104.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:46 -!- Eko [~eko@adsl-76-251-235-206.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:49 < Eko> In the gc compilers, what's the performance hit in converting from string to []byte? In other words, if I have an application that is doing extensive sub-slicing of strings, should I store these as slices of a [...]byte and only convert to a string when needed? 17:50 -!- prip [~foo@host118-121-dynamic.47-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:51 -!- watr_ [~watr@66.183.100.58] has joined #go-nuts 17:51 -!- Tv [~tv@cpe-76-168-227-45.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:57 -!- keithcascio [~keithcasc@nat/google/x-ysuuzyjevyncocdb] has joined #go-nuts 18:03 -!- prip [~foo@host107-121-dynamic.47-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #go-nuts 18:07 -!- kanru [~kanru@118-168-235-191.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:16 < uriel> Eko: hard to tell I'd think, depends on what you are doing with the slices 18:16 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-196-231-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 18:16 < uriel> Eko: I'd use whatever works more naturally, and then profile, if it is too slow, than try to see if you can optimize something 18:22 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@lawn-gw.rutgers.edu] has joined #go-nuts 18:23 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has joined #go-nuts 18:31 -!- Paradox924X [~Paradox92@vaserv/irc/founder] has joined #go-nuts 18:32 -!- nictuku [~nictuku@cetico.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:39 < Eko> Incidentally, is it impossible to have mutually recursive packages? 18:39 < skelterjohn> yes 18:39 < skelterjohn> they would have to be compiled simultaneously 18:39 < skelterjohn> if it were allowed 18:39 < skelterjohn> in which case you could just as well have them be the same package 18:40 < skelterjohn> go packages and namespaces (what java calls packages) aren't quite the same thing 18:40 < Eko> that's what I figured. 18:40 < Eko> I just combined the two into the same package, and it works fine. 18:45 -!- kashia_ [~kb@port-92-200-52-15.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:46 -!- Xenith__ [~xenith@2001:470:1:9:8002::1] has joined #go-nuts 18:46 -!- Xenith__ [~xenith@2001:470:1:9:8002::1] has quit [Client Quit] 18:51 -!- Project-2501 [~Marvin@82.84.75.236] has joined #go-nuts 18:53 -!- nictuku [~nictuku@cetico.org] has joined #go-nuts 18:54 -!- Project_2501 [~Marvin@82.84.65.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:59 -!- nictuku [~nictuku@cetico.org] has quit [Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5] 19:02 -!- nictuku [~nicutku@unaffiliated/nictuku] has joined #go-nuts 19:02 -!- niemeyer_ [~niemeyer@187.53.253.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:02 -!- femtooo [~femto@95-89-196-231-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 19:05 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-196-231-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:05 -!- enherit [~enherit@cpe-98-149-170-48.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 19:07 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@lawn-gw.rutgers.edu] has quit [Quit: skelterjohn] 19:12 -!- skejoe [~skejoe@188.114.142.162] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:33 -!- neur [~neuro@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974] has joined #go-nuts 19:37 -!- boscop_ [~boscop@g230087110.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 19:40 -!- boscop [~boscop@f055077131.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:46 -!- Fish- [~Fish@9fans.fr] has joined #go-nuts 19:52 -!- watr_ [~watr@66.183.100.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:56 -!- illya77 [~illya77@20-192-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:57 -!- hokapoka [~hokapoka@hoka.hokapoka.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:57 -!- hokapoka [~hokapoka@hoka.hokapoka.com] has joined #go-nuts 20:01 -!- Project-2501 [~Marvin@82.84.75.236] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:02 -!- Boney [~paul@124-148-146-189.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: reboot] 20:04 -!- sergej_super [~sergej_su@p4FD376A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:04 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-196-231-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 20:07 -!- femtooo [~femto@95-89-196-231-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:23 -!- LeNsTR [~lenstr@unaffiliated/lenstr] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:28 -!- LeNsTR [~lenstr@79.165.23.176] has joined #go-nuts 20:28 -!- LeNsTR [~lenstr@79.165.23.176] has quit [Changing host] 20:28 -!- LeNsTR [~lenstr@unaffiliated/lenstr] has joined #go-nuts 20:29 -!- pothos [~pothos@111-240-210-54.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:33 -!- |Craig| [~|Craig|@216.145.25.27] has joined #go-nuts 20:33 -!- |Craig| [~|Craig|@216.145.25.27] has quit [Changing host] 20:33 -!- |Craig| [~|Craig|@panda3d/entropy] has joined #go-nuts 20:33 -!- plainhao [~plainhao@208.75.85.237] has quit [Quit: plainhao] 20:33 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.59.164.136] has quit [Quit: bye] 20:34 -!- sav [~lsd@jagat.xored.org] has joined #go-nuts 20:40 -!- illya77 [~illya77@20-192-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:44 -!- amacleod [~amacleod@pool-96-252-93-11.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:47 -!- watr_ [~watr@66.183.100.58] has joined #go-nuts 20:50 -!- DarthShrine [~angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #go-nuts 21:07 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has joined #go-nuts 21:14 -!- sergej_super [~sergej_su@p4FD376A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:16 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-196-231-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:30 -!- x-kent [~x-kent@line135-251.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #go-nuts 21:31 < x-kent> Where can I find information why Go needs tuple assignments ? Can't find anything on golang.org 21:33 < x-kent> anyone ? 21:36 < DarthShrine> On why it needs tuple assignments? 21:39 < x-kent> sorry, seems I messed here. Replace "tuple assignments" with "multiple assignments" 21:40 < anticw> needs? 21:41 < x-kent> why it includes it ? I mean it is only for comfort or it allows some special functionality ? 21:43 < Namegduf> x-kent: It allows certain functionality to be provided by the language without returning structures 21:43 < Namegduf> The biggest is probably "v, ok := x.(type)" type assertions. 21:44 < aiju> also, long tuple assignments are a great way to obscure programs 21:44 < aiju> ◔ ◡ ◔ 21:44 < Namegduf> Also important are non-blocking channel reads/writes, and map access. 21:45 < Namegduf> It also allows certain idioms. 21:45 < Namegduf> x, err := blah() as an error handling mechanism 21:45 < Namegduf> Which while perhaps potentially implementable in C is painful enough to be unwieldy, while in Go it's an idiom. 21:46 < x-kent> Thanks, that's the exact explanation I needed. 21:47 < aiju> Go is probably the only language designed in this century with goto lol 21:47 < Namegduf> I'd be surprised at that. 21:47 < Namegduf> Also I'm using goto. 21:47 < aiju> me too 21:48 < aiju> "goto is evil" folks shall get off my lawn 21:49 < DarthShrine> "return" is just a fancy goto anyway :) 21:49 < aiju> so are break and continue 21:49 < aiju> in fact, i mainly use goto as a sophisticated break 21:49 < Namegduf> Go's goto can't do that, but it can do break and continue and more important stuff 21:49 -!- joatmon54 [~engest@cpe-66-74-195-46.san.res.rr.com] has joined #go-nuts 21:49 < Namegduf> I use it to "restart" functions 21:50 < aiju> for { deep nested loop for { if foo { goto match } } } 21:50 < Namegduf> Specifically, I'm writing a lock-free data structure whose writes use Cas (pilfered from the sync package) directly 21:50 < aiju> return notfound 21:50 < aiju> match: 21:50 < Namegduf> Writes whose compare-and-swap fail need to restart 21:50 < Namegduf> I might manage to delete those gotos later, though. 21:50 < aiju> oh compare-and-swap 21:51 < aiju> the synthesis paper contained some section about that 21:57 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@c-eacae555.08-2-73746f39.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@c-71-230-156-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 22:05 -!- zozoR [~zozoR@56346ed3.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Morten. 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