--- Log opened Thu Mar 03 00:00:34 2011
00:04 < rm445> rob@fuchsia:~/go/src$ grep -r 'The vector package implements
containers' *
00:04 < rm445> pkg/container/vector/defs.go:// The vector package implements
containers for managing sequences
00:06 < rm445> ^^^ ewanas: don't really understand godoc, but it looks like
it's pulling the info from comments in that file.
00:06 < ewanas> yeah, but what about the intro type stuff?
00:06 < ewanas> it has to be getting it from somewhere
00:07 < ewanas> IMO godoc is not nicely documented, but we'll keep hunting
00:07 < rm445> that /is/ the intro stuff for that particular one, I think
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02:07 < marimo> Could someone point me in the right direction to configure
Xcode to work with Go?
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02:17 < str1ngs> marimo: not much to configure if you have xcode installed
02:18 < str1ngs> marimo: not sure what you mean by "work with go" though.
02:19 < marimo> str1ngs: I am a bit new to Xcode and can't find how to setup
the syntax highlighting, compiling and running in Xcode for Go
02:19 < str1ngs> marimo: ah you want to use xcode as an edit of sorts?
02:20 < marimo> str1ngs: Exactly.
02:20 < str1ngs> marimo: its much easier to simply use a terminal and and
text editor with go
02:21 < marimo> str1ngs: Very well.  As I am chatting with you, I found that
Xcode's strings cause problems with Go's compiler.  Pico it is then.  Thank you.
02:21 < str1ngs> marimo: I'm sure it can be done.  but really no need
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02:23 < skelterjohn> marimo: I can help you - I use xcode to work with go
code
02:23 < skelterjohn> I don't use it to build though - I do that in the
terminal
02:23 < marimo> skelterjohn: Thank you.  If I can just set up the syntax
highlighting, all would be well.
02:23 < skelterjohn> but I can get syntax working
02:24 < skelterjohn> you saw in $GOROOT/misc/xcode there are syntax files,
right?
02:24 < marimo> skelterjohn: Yes I found those files
02:24 < skelterjohn> do you know where to put them?
02:25 < marimo> no
02:26 < skelterjohn> mine are in
/Users/jasmuth/Documents/Library/Application\
Support/Developer/Shared/Xcode/Specifications/
02:26 < skelterjohn> (took me forever to figure that out)
02:27 < marimo> I see.  So I need to find the Xcode/Specifications folder
02:28 < skelterjohn> well, swap your username with mine
02:28 < skelterjohn> and there it is
02:31 < marimo> Wonderful.  Everything is working.  Thank you very much.
02:31 < skelterjohn> great!
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03:41 <@adg> Everything is working?!  awesome!  i can go home!
03:42 <@adg> ;)
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03:47 < plexdev> http://is.gd/rUpBSS by [Rob Pike] in go/src/pkg/unsafe/ --
unsafe: fix the documentation
03:47 < plexdev> http://is.gd/WTzG7D by [Andrew Gerrand] in
go/misc/dashboard/builder/ -- gobuilder: add -package flag to build external
packages
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04:17 < evildho> iant: it ended up looking significantly different, but now
it works on all gcc 4 versions I've tested (4.1, 4.2, 4.4) and in clang 1.5 and
2.4 \m/
04:18 <+iant> cool
04:18 < evildho> clang doesn't work with the p constraint so i had to
revisit them and found a but
04:18 < evildho> bug*
04:18 <+iant> sigh
04:19 < evildho> then I ran into C casting everything to unsigned int and
getting undefined behavior with (uint)(1<<31)
04:19 < evildho> but now the port is complete!  woohoo
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05:50 < plexdev> http://is.gd/7QbNVS by [Andrew Gerrand] in go/doc/ -- doc:
remove reference to bug count from install.html
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09:27 * wrtp smells smoke
09:34 < xyproto> wrtp: are you in Libya?
09:35 < wrtp> nah, just reading golang-nuts :-)
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09:37 < plexdev> http://is.gd/RkqB2A by [Nigel Tao] in 3 subdirs of
go/src/pkg/ -- image: add a decoding test for common file formats.
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11:16 < taruti> Has anyone got demonizing working for Go?
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11:33 < wrtp> yeah, put an & on the end :-)
11:34 < taruti> wrtp: more like signal handling, setsid, ...  and for bonus
points also windows support.
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11:37 < wrtp> taruti: signal handling you can do in go.  setsid you could do
with a simple C wrapper around the go program.
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11:37 < wrtp> not portable, but it would work, i think
11:38 < taruti> wrtp: yes, and I am wondering whether someone has already
packaged the code so I don't end up reinventing the wheel
11:43 < str1ngs> wrtp: & is the only way to daemonize right now?  been
meaning to look into but I dont have anything that needs it yet.
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11:46 < Electro^> hokapoka: would you have time for a question?
11:46 < Electro^> i understand the concepts of mongo.Doc mostly now
11:46 < Electro^> and how to format update and finds
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11:47 < Electro^> but incase i want to specify search criteria with several
inputs, i get confused
11:47 < Electro^> given this command which works in the mongoDB shell:
11:47 < Electro^> db.main.find( {"fileName" : "test", "userName" : {"$ne" :
"kingkong" }})
11:49 < Electro^> this is what i have currently come up with, though it wont
work
11:49 < Electro^> cursor, _ := conn.Find("test.main", mongo.Doc{{"fileName",
mongo.Doc{{"test", mongo.Doc{{"userName", mongo.Doc{{"$ne" ,"kingkong"}}}}}}}},
nil)
11:49 < Electro^> database returns "no such command"
11:53 < Electro^> yeah and anyone else with the knowledge feel free to
answer :)
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11:59 < wrtp> taruti: it's only about 3 lines of code...
12:00 < wrtp> str1ngs: yes, but is that a great problem?\
12:00 < taruti> more like 30
12:01 < Electro^> hokapoka: seems we figured it out
12:01 < Electro^> i was just thinking in the wrong direction again
12:01 < str1ngs> wrtp: it can be for services not invoked by a shell
12:02 < str1ngs> wrtp: but there are ways around it :P
12:03 < wrtp> taruti: really?  can't you just do: setsid(); execp(...) ?
12:04 < taruti> wrtp: setuid, fork, fork, setsid, close file descriptors,
handle logging, ...
12:04 < taruti> signal handling etc
12:08 < str1ngs> wrtp: sorry I missed the wrapper part above.  ya that would
be my work around
12:09 < wrtp> taruti: without testing it: http://pastebin.com/WzJu3j5G
12:10 < wrtp> ok, so it's 24 lines of code
12:10 < wrtp> but it took less than 5 minutes to write
12:10 < taruti> wrtp: that is incorrect however, needs double-forking at
least
12:10 < wrtp> why?
12:10 < str1ngs> ah or you could use that.  and have it for a daemon manager
writting in go that Exec stuff in go routines?
12:11 < taruti> wrtp: so that the parent process will be init
12:11 < wrtp> taruti: the parent process will be init
12:11 < wrtp> when the daemoniser exits, which is immediately
12:13 < wrtp> it seems to work
12:13 < wrtp> logging can be left to the caller, or to the go process itself
12:14 < wrtp> i meant execvp rather than execp, obviously
12:15 < taruti> and then to translate that to go syscalls because I'd like
to avoid a separate executable
12:16 < wrtp> you can't avoid a separate executable currently
12:16 < wrtp> this is the only possible solution
12:17 < wrtp> the executable is under 9K on my machine.  surely it's not a
great problem?
12:21 < taruti> I am aiming for just being able to distribute one binary
file with no supporting files
12:24 < wrtp> taruti: you could do that by doing it in go and getting the
binary to exec itself.  pretty nasty though - better to use this as an interim
solution until go has daemonising capability, then upgrade.
12:25 < taruti> I am thinking of going the exec-itself route
12:26 < wrtp> yuck
12:26 < wrtp> in my view that has most of the down sides of having two
executables
12:26 < taruti> why?
12:27 < wrtp> because the executable has to be able to find itself
12:27 < wrtp> which isn't necessarily trouble-free
12:27 < taruti> that can be done in an os-dependent manner quite well
12:27 < wrtp> it can't be done reliably
12:27 < wrtp> argv[0] does not always point to the path of the current
executable
12:28 < taruti> wrtp: in linux /proc/self/exe iirc, and other solutions for
other operating systems
12:29 < wrtp> you're just putting a load of unnecessary os-dependant stuff
in your code when you don't need to
12:29 < Namegduf> If you want to daemonize, you have to do it one way or
another.
12:29 < taruti> I'm already doing os-dependent ioctls etc
12:30 < wrtp> yeah, but they're directly to do with the task you're trying
to solve, not just random os dependencies
12:31 < wrtp> actually i've thought of quite a cool way of implementing a go
daemoniser package
12:31 < taruti> tell :)
12:32 < wrtp> i'll just try it and see if it works
12:36 < ww> skolem!
12:38 < wrtp> ww: ?
12:39 < ww> sorry wrong channel
12:42 < wrtp> taruti: no, it doesn't work
12:42 < wrtp> t
12:42 < wrtp> here
12:42 < wrtp> '
12:42 < wrtp> or...
12:42 < wrtp> maybe it would be ok
12:42 < wrtp> hmm
12:44 < taruti> hmm?
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12:45 < wrtp> basically, calling fork is pretty dodgy
12:45 < wrtp> h
12:45 < wrtp> av
12:45 < wrtp> e
12:46 < wrtp> [i hate it when my irc client does that]
12:46 < wrtp> have a look at syscall/exec_unix.go
12:46 < wrtp> honestly, it won't be long before daemonising is implemented.
12:47 < taruti> I was thinking that a year ago
12:47 < wrtp> i've got another idea for generalising ForkExec.
12:47 < wrtp> taking a tip from the way that monads work
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13:23 < wrtp> taruti:
http://groups.google.com/group/golang-dev/msg/63a86437792f6632
13:26 < wrtp> maybe a bit functional-style for the go team, but i quite like
the idea
13:27 < taruti> hmm, I would just use a ForkOptions struct to simulate
keyword arguments
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13:30 < wrtp> taruti: the nice thing about the applicative approach is it
easily allows sequences, e.g.  dup(1, 2); dup(2, 3)
13:30 < wrtp> the underlying implementation could easily just be a struct
containing fork options
13:31 < taruti> true
13:31 < wrtp> if you didn't care about sequencing
13:35 < wrtp> i quite like the functional approach for the unix api as it
doesn't require you to change the structure each time you add a new capability
(and there are lots of things you can do under unix after fork and before exec)
13:36 < wrtp> i don't think it'll work though, as there's no way to
guarantee that a call won't allocate new stack memory
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like i was doing
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14:26 < plexdev> http://is.gd/Av6JTp by [Adam Langley] in
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16:39 < outworlder> anyone got an example for jsonrpc?
16:39 < taruti> what are you trying to do?
16:41 < outworlder> just a simple server, for now.
16:41 < outworlder> wanted to take a look at some sample code, if available
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16:42 < taruti> are you calling it from js or another go program?
16:43 < outworlder> from another go program, at least for the time being
16:44 < taruti> ok, just use rpc/jsonrpc, and as for example
http://golang.org/pkg/rpc/
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16:46 < outworlder> here's what I got so far: https://gist.github.com/853069
If I send it anything invalid, it gets stuck in a loop, printing lots of
"2011/03/03 13:45:18 rpc: rpc: server cannot decode request: invalid character 'a'
looking for beginning of value"
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16:48 < outworlder> for other requests, it returns (to the caller):
{"id":null,"result":{"Marker":0},"error":"rpc: service/method request ill-formed:
"} and a single "2011/03/03 13:50:36 rpc: rpc: service/method request ill-formed:"
is printed on the console, which is what I'd expect
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18:51 < plexdev> http://is.gd/qg9Umy by [Roger Peppe] in go/src/pkg/fmt/ --
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19:23 < zozoR2> why cant i get my self to RAPE the entire harddisk, remove
windows and install an operating system : | christ
19:24 < dfr|work> zozoR2, cat /dev/rand > /dev/hda ?
19:25 < aiju> zozoR2: DO EEET
19:25 < zozoR2> its not that i cant do it, i just cant bring myself to do it
D:
19:25 < dfr|work> zozoR2, give me root, and you shall be saved!
19:26 < zozoR2> i cant install linux, because windows for some reason has
made 4 primary partitions
19:26 < dfr|work> zozoR2, well, trash stuff.
19:27 < zozoR2> the whole problem is that i dont want to delete windows or
lose it, i paid for it (cant buy laptops without it) so i want it :D
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19:27 < aiju> hahahahahahahahahahahahah
19:28 < dfr|work> zozoR2, well, you paid for a license.  You still will have
it.
19:28 < dfr|work> zozoR2, usually laptops come with the "rescue" CDs or you
can request them or whatever.  And use that to install windows.
19:28 < zozoR2> i have to make the rescue cd's myself..
19:28 < zozoR2> D:
19:28 < ww> zozoR2: i had the same thoughts in 1994...  just wipe the thing
and get it over with
19:29 < dfr|work> zozoR2, get a mac.  You can play the good games on mac
anyway.  :P
19:29 < ww> obviously we had rescue floppies not cds then...
19:29 < aiju> games are the most lousy reason to buy a specific OS
19:29 < aiju> right next to office shit
19:30 < dfr|work> aiju, well, you're obviously not a gamer then.  ;)
19:30 < aiju> i have a gameboy color and a typewriter
19:30 < aiju> no need for Windows 7 and MS Office
19:30 < ww> if you get nostalgic for some reason (can't imagine why) you can
always run windows with virtualbox
19:31 < zozoR2> oh yeah
19:31 < zozoR2> lol
19:31 < zozoR2> *turns off windows*
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19:32 < zozoR2> nooess.  cant get myself to throw stuff out i bought
>.<
19:37 < plexdev> http://is.gd/BNbD8M by [Roger Peppe] in go/src/pkg/testing/
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20:26 < plexdev> http://is.gd/YMRc4W by [Brad Fitzpatrick] in
go/src/pkg/http/ -- http: allow handlers to send non-chunked responses
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21:43 < plexdev> http://is.gd/58TUbb by [Brad Fitzpatrick] in
go/src/pkg/http/ -- http: change localhost URL; maybe fix Windows
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23:30 < plexdev> http://is.gd/6Qg1hj by [Robert Griesemer] in go/doc/ -- go
spec: minor clarification of scope rule for functions
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