--- Log opened Sat Jul 10 00:00:12 2010 00:01 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 00:16 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: str1ngs, rejb, scm, jlouis, monteslu, Rennex, d_m, LionMadeOfLions, i__, prip_ 00:19 -!- marsu [~marsu@ANancy-154-1-80-225.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:20 -!- zerd [~quassel@2a01:608:ffff:3644:2e0:4dff:fe83:76ed] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: jlouis 00:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: scm 00:20 -!- i__ [~none@nkvd.ath.cx] has joined #go-nuts 00:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: d_m 00:24 -!- unhygienix [~unhygieni@host86-177-113-38.range86-177.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: unhygienix] 00:27 -!- Rennex [rennex@giraf.fi] has joined #go-nuts 00:28 -!- jackman [~jackman@c-24-21-216-140.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:30 -!- jdp [~gu@24.238.32.162.res-cmts.segr.ptd.net] has quit [] 00:32 -!- prip_ [~foo@host163-125-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #go-nuts 00:33 -!- str1ngs [~strings@unaffiliated/str1ngs] has joined #go-nuts 00:33 -!- monteslu [~monteslu@ip68-109-175-168.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #go-nuts 00:34 -!- LionMadeOfLions [~LionMadeO@70.114.156.242] has joined #go-nuts 00:36 -!- Rennex [rennex@giraf.fi] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 00:36 -!- Rennex_ [rennex@giraf.fi] has joined #go-nuts 00:50 -!- jackman [~jackman@c-24-21-216-140.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:12 -!- gnuvince_ [~vince@70.35.167.149] has joined #go-nuts 01:13 -!- bmizerany [~bmizerany@dsl081-064-072.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:21 -!- Ginto8 [~Ginto8@pool-72-82-235-34.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:24 -!- Bombe [~droden@freenet/developer/Bombe] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:24 -!- Bombe [~droden@weltgehirnmaschine.de] has joined #go-nuts 01:25 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@c-76-116-181-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:26 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@c-76-116-181-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:37 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@c-76-116-181-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:49 -!- Ginto8 [~Ginto8@pool-72-82-235-34.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 01:49 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@c-76-116-181-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: skelterjohn] 01:59 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has joined #go-nuts 02:03 -!- MizardX [~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:16 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 02:18 -!- grncdr [~stephen@sdo.csc.UVic.CA] has quit [Quit: brb] 02:19 -!- grncdr [~stephen@sdo.csc.UVic.CA] has joined #go-nuts 02:35 -!- babusri [~Babu@122.167.89.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:58 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@c-76-116-181-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 03:03 -!- skelterjohn [~jasmuth@c-76-116-181-134.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:35 < Ginto8> I have a question about cgo... how do you access a struct member if its name is type? 03:36 < nsf> doesn't cgo rename all struct members to an uppercase-letter-first scheme? 03:36 < Ginto8> I don't think so, but I'll try Type 03:37 < nsf> I actually have a 'type' member in my termbox lib 03:37 < Ginto8> well it seems to work with Type 03:38 < nsf> _type_C_uint8_t 03:38 < nsf> oops 03:38 < nsf> _type _C_uint8_t 03:38 < nsf> that's how it does it with C struct 03:38 < Ginto8> oh 03:38 < Ginto8> so _? 03:38 < nsf> and if you generate a Go struct using godefs 03:38 < nsf> it makes it uppercase-letter-first 03:39 < nsf> Ginto8: just take a look at _cgo_gotypes.go 03:39 < nsf> it contains all the C types translated to the Go language 03:42 < Ginto8> it wasn't a question of its type 03:42 < Ginto8> oh wait srry got it 03:42 < Ginto8> =P 03:43 < Ginto8> btw you can declare variables in the C code in the comments right? 03:43 < Ginto8> const arrays specificly 03:43 < nsf> I'm not sure about that 03:43 < nsf> never tried it 03:51 -!- Eridius [~kevin@unaffiliated/eridius] has quit [Quit: heading home] 03:54 -!- jda2000 [~jda2000@host-208-117-123-72.beyondbb.com] has joined #go-nuts 03:57 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:58 < Ginto8> okay when I try to compile a file with: 03:58 < Ginto8> type err_t struct { 03:58 < Ginto8> err int 03:58 < Ginto8> str string 03:58 < Ginto8> } 03:58 < Ginto8> I get the error: 03:58 < Ginto8> error.go:13: undefined: err 03:58 < Ginto8> error.go:14: undefined: str 03:59 < Ginto8> what am I doing wrong? 03:59 -!- Xurix [~Luixsia@AToulouse-254-1-16-170.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:59 -!- Xurix [~Luixsia@AToulouse-254-1-16-170.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #go-nuts 04:16 * nsf has no idea 04:19 < Ginto8> also, it seems that cgo DOESN'T make it a capitol-letter scheme 04:20 < Ginto8> which means that I am at a loss as to how to access SDL_Event.type 04:20 < Ginto8> =( 04:21 -!- g0bl1n [~pr0kter@a213-22-76-1.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #go-nuts 04:22 -!- jda2000 [~jda2000@host-208-117-123-72.beyondbb.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:29 -!- tvw [~tv@e176003157.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 04:31 -!- bjarneh [~bjarneh@135.80-203-19.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: bjarneh] 04:34 -!- irc [~irc@209.17.191.58] has joined #go-nuts 04:35 -!- Guest82797 [~irc@209.17.191.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:37 -!- g0bl1n [~pr0kter@a213-22-76-1.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:39 -!- niemeyer [~niemeyer@201-11-213-235.pltce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:51 -!- g0bl1n [~pr0kter@a213-22-76-1.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #go-nuts 04:59 -!- scm [justme@d070110.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:01 -!- scm [justme@d071086.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #go-nuts 05:02 -!- Arimoto [~Arimoto@unaffiliated/arimoto] has joined #go-nuts 05:04 < Arimoto> If I have several types that implement the same methods, can I have a function that returns any one of those types based on some logic in the function? 05:04 < Ginto8> yep 05:04 < Arimoto> I got stuck at what to put for the return part of the function declaration. :-/ 05:04 < Ginto8> it should return an interface 05:05 < Ginto8> and then do a type switch once you retrieve it (outside the function) 05:05 < Ginto8> unless you just want them for the methods 05:06 < Arimoto> I think I just care about the methods. 05:07 < Ginto8> then just have it return the interface, then call the methods 05:07 < Ginto8> you understand interfaces correct? 05:07 < Ginto8> if not look at the spec and tutorials on the website 05:09 < Arimoto> Ginto8: I don't and I'm reading the spec now. Thanks. :-) 05:09 < Ginto8> well are you familiar with duck typing? 05:09 < Ginto8> actually, if you don't understand interfaces you may not understand channels either 05:10 < Ginto8> look at the 3 .pdf's in $GOROOT/doc 05:10 < Ginto8> they're VERY good tutorials on most of the language features 05:25 -!- cco3 [~conley@c-69-181-138-209.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 05:37 -!- tux21b [~christoph@90.146.60.30] has joined #go-nuts 05:38 -!- jA_cOp [~yakobu@unaffiliated/ja-cop/x-9478493] has joined #go-nuts 05:41 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 05:44 -!- ExtraSpice [~ExtraSpic@88.118.32.225] has joined #go-nuts 06:08 -!- belkiss [~belkiss@drn13-1-78-235-168-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #go-nuts 06:11 -!- incluye [~inklewyay@NW-ESR1-74-215-114-218.fuse.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:27 -!- Ginto8 [~Ginto8@pool-72-82-235-34.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:31 -!- Gracenotes [~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:38 -!- Tiger_ [~chatzilla@118.126.12.54] has joined #go-nuts 06:43 -!- Project_2501 [~Marvin@82.84.75.14] has joined #go-nuts 06:45 * Project_2501 slept only 1 hour :/ 06:47 -!- LionMade0fLions [~LionMadeO@70.114.156.242] has joined #go-nuts 06:50 -!- LionMadeOfLions [~LionMadeO@70.114.156.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:53 < jer> Project_2501, then go back to bed 06:54 < Project_2501> jer, i've some work to do 06:54 < Project_2501> o,o 06:54 < jer> ah, then why in #go-nuts? =] 06:55 < Project_2501> jer, the next train is on platform 2 of the nearest station about 30 minutes in the future 06:55 < Project_2501> o.o 06:55 < jer> djef, i'm sure there are, but i've been exclusively freenode for about a decade now 06:56 < jer> err 06:56 < jer> wrong chan 06:56 < jer> Project_2501, ah 06:57 < Project_2501> i'll partecipate to an experiment 06:57 < Project_2501> o,o 06:57 < Project_2501> a friend of mine is doing studies about <something that has to do with the brain> 06:58 < Project_2501> i'll have to watch videos and images and press some button 06:58 < Project_2501> \o/ 06:58 < Project_2501> this task requires EXTREME concentration 06:59 < Project_2501> and i can't drink coffie 06:59 < Project_2501> becouse <something that has to do with the brain> has to be done under "normal" conditions 06:59 < Project_2501> but who cares!? SHE'S :3!!! TITS!!!! 06:59 < Project_2501> o.o 06:59 < Project_2501> (tits! \o/) 07:05 < jer> lol 07:07 < Project_2501> jer, and during the experiment i've to wear a cap with about 30 sensors o,o 07:07 < Project_2501> time to go o.o 07:07 < Project_2501> i'll be back this evening, or tomorrow 07:07 < Project_2501> bye o.o/ 07:07 < jer> later 07:08 -!- Project_2501 [~Marvin@82.84.75.14] has quit [Quit: E se abbasso questa leva che succ...] 07:13 -!- ExtraSpice [~ExtraSpic@88.118.32.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:15 -!- photron_ [~photron@port-92-201-90-125.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #go-nuts 07:18 -!- belkiss [~belkiss@drn13-1-78-235-168-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc Equilibrium 4.1.0, revision: 4632, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-07-09 07:13:47 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/] 07:24 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@62.176.237.78] has joined #go-nuts 07:24 -!- nsf [~nsf@jiss.convex.ru] has joined #go-nuts 07:30 -!- rlab [~Miranda@91.200.158.34] has joined #go-nuts 07:32 -!- photron_ [~photron@port-92-201-90-125.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:32 -!- photron [~photron@port-92-201-90-125.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #go-nuts 07:43 -!- ShadowIce [pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has joined #go-nuts 07:47 -!- visof [~visof@unaffiliated/visof] has joined #go-nuts 07:52 -!- illya77 [~illya77@103-141-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #go-nuts 07:55 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 08:06 -!- ikaros [~ikaros@drms-4d014d8b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #go-nuts 08:13 -!- kanru [~kanru@61-228-161-134.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #go-nuts 08:14 -!- cco3 [~conley@c-69-181-138-209.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:15 -!- sioraiocht [~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht] has joined #go-nuts 08:17 -!- sioraiocht [~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:18 -!- tav [~tav@84.13.41.68] has quit [Quit: tav] 08:19 -!- esiroker [~esiroker@adsl-99-49-227-57.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: esiroker] 08:22 -!- ikaros [~ikaros@drms-4d014d8b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leave the magic to Houdini] 08:27 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@209.52.84.50] has joined #go-nuts 08:35 -!- Eko [~eko@DHCP-159-138.caltech.edu] has joined #go-nuts 08:35 < Eko> uriel: nf: not sure if you guys are around, but just wanted to let you know that I'm migrating gofr to bitbucket, as the people who've used it seem to like it, and I think it should have its own hosting 08:36 < Eko> so the new link would be https://bitbucket.org/kylelemons/gofr/wiki/Home ; 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There is lots of documentation on calling C libraries, would Go be called the same way? 16:59 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@209.52.84.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:59 < Arimoto> ni|: My attempts to google "Python wrapper for Go library" failed miserably. 16:59 < jessta> Arimoto: I don't think you can do it just yet 17:00 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@209.52.84.50] has joined #go-nuts 17:00 < ni|> jessta: really? 17:00 < ni|> i could have sworn i saw something around 17:00 < Arimoto> I found Go wrappers for other languages, but not vice versa 17:02 < Arimoto> I'll idle here in case anybody else has anything more to add. 17:03 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@209.52.84.50] has quit [Client Quit] 17:03 < jessta> calling in to Go code from other language is messy because of the GC and the seperate stacks for goroutines 17:04 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@209.52.84.50] has joined #go-nuts 17:08 < jessta> someone will work it out eventually, but while you wait you can use sockets or pipes etc. to communicate between python and Go 17:09 < ni|> right, why can't he do that instead 17:11 < Namegduf> Go doesn't support dynamic loading. 17:12 < Namegduf> So Go libraries that can be called into don't exist; you link against stuff and get a statically compiled executable instead. 17:15 < jchico> quick question, does Go support first order functions? 17:16 < jchico> I tried to make one and the compiler gave me an error on about how return cannot have a closure 17:16 < ender2070> that isn't quick 17:17 < jessta> jchico: yes it does 17:18 < jessta> jchico: are you doing something like, return func(){print("something")} ? 17:18 < jchico> jessta: yeah 17:18 < jchico> but how do you write the return type? 17:18 < jessta> I'm not sure if funcs are addressble 17:19 < jessta> try assigning it to a variable and returning that 17:19 < Arimoto> Namegduf: can I link a C object file against a Go one then? 17:20 < Namegduf> Arimoto: Only with cgo 17:20 < jchico> jessta: I did and it compiled but when I tried to use the return type it gave me an error, so I guess they are not :/ 17:20 < Namegduf> Which does some of the necessary work to make it go 17:20 < Namegduf> Go's lightweight goroutines mean Go's stack works different to C/most everything else 17:21 < Arimoto> Namegduf: Ok, I found some threads about Cgo that talk about that. 17:22 < jessta> jchico: can I see your code? 17:22 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@209.52.84.50] has quit [Quit: rhelmer] 17:22 -!- ender2070 [~ender2070@bas2-brampton13-2925226384.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:22 -!- ender2070 [~ender2070@bas2-brampton13-2925226384.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #go-nuts 17:23 < jchico> jessta: just a minute going to re-write it 17:25 -!- jhawk28 [~jhawk28@72.40.31.201] has joined #go-nuts 17:26 -!- qIIp [~qIIp@72-173-156-132.cust.wildblue.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:29 < jchico> jessta: ah figured it out, you have to explicitly declare the functions parameters & return type which I thought would do it automatically for me 17:31 < jessta> yeah, statically typed language and the type inference is very basic 17:31 -!- axle [~axle@p508CF9A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:32 < Namegduf> Go's type inference is more "removing the most obvious" than "cleverly extrapolating" 17:33 < jchico> not a big deal but a pain whenever you decide to switch the returning function because you have to edit the code in two places now 17:34 -!- axle [~axle@p508CF9A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #go-nuts [] 17:34 -!- sauerbraten [~axle@p508CF9A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #go-nuts 17:36 -!- visof [~visof@unaffiliated/visof] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:37 -!- terrex [~terrex@84.122.67.111.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #go-nuts 17:38 -!- ubuntufreak [~ubuntufre@122.164.64.20] has joined #go-nuts 17:39 < sauerbraten> hi 17:40 -!- visof [~visof@unaffiliated/visof] has joined #go-nuts 17:40 < jchico> hello 17:40 -!- visof [~visof@unaffiliated/visof] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41 < sauerbraten> can someone tell me how i can read input from the console? i didn't found anything concrete in the docs 17:41 < sauerbraten> and i am very new to Go 17:43 < jchico> the functions for that should be in the io 17:44 < sauerbraten> i'm looking for something like raw_input() in python 17:44 < sauerbraten> yeah i thought so bur i couldn't get through all the comments describing how io works 17:45 < jhawk28> there is a Stdin variable in the "os" package 17:46 < sauerbraten> something like /dev/stdin ? 17:46 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@62.176.237.78] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 17:46 -!- awidegreen [~quassel@62.176.237.78] has joined #go-nuts 17:46 < jhawk28> thats what it links to 17:47 < jhawk28> so it looks like you can create a reader from it 17:47 < sauerbraten> isn't there a simple method for that? like: "import io; io.readLine();" ? 17:48 -!- ExtraSpice [~ExtraSpic@88.118.32.225] has joined #go-nuts 17:48 < jchico> I think you have to implement that yourself, should not be too hard 17:49 < sauerbraten> well i think for me it is... :/ i know how to do so in Java in Python but they both aren't so similar to Go 17:50 -!- visof [~visof@unaffiliated/visof] has joined #go-nuts 17:51 < sauerbraten> how can you publish a programming language without a simple way to read input from the terminal??? 17:51 < MaybeSo> you can read from os.Stdin like any file 17:52 < jchico> yeah it just won't tell you how to read it, for that you use other functions 17:52 < jchico> so it's up to you to say what's considered a line 17:53 -!- qIIp [~qIIp@72-173-156-132.cust.wildblue.net] has left #go-nuts [] 17:54 < MaybeSo> an example I had sent in on a similar discussion the other day: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/235906/ 17:54 < MaybeSo> far from perfect, but it gives the idea 17:56 < MaybeSo> (for one thing, I learned a little later than I didn't need to do all the pointer casting, and should have just sent the file as io.ReadCloser, instead of *io.ReadCloser) 17:59 < MizardX> var in bufio.Reader; func main() { in = bufio.NewReader(io.Stdin) } func ReadLine() string { line, err := in.ReadString('\n'); if err != nil { panic(err); } return line } 18:00 -!- ender2070 [~ender2070@bas2-brampton13-2925226384.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00 < jhawk28> sauerbraten: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/235908/ 18:01 -!- visof [~visof@unaffiliated/visof] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:02 < cw> MizardX: what about EOF? 18:03 < cw> MizardX: you could get EOF _and_ data at the same time 18:04 < ubuntufreak> I have installed Go in my Ubuntu 10.04 system and when i try to compile the program using '6g hello.go' i get a command unknown error ? 18:05 < cw> 6g isnt in PATH 18:05 < jchico> by default it should of installed it under $HOME/bin 18:06 < ubuntufreak> cw: how to check that ? 18:06 -!- belkiss [~belkiss@drn13-1-78-235-168-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc Equilibrium 4.1.0, revision: 4632, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-07-09 07:13:47 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:06 < cw> ubuntufreak: check $PATH and fix .bashrc or whatever 18:08 -!- sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:09 < ubuntufreak> cw: any help on fixing the $PATH ? 18:09 -!- sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has joined #go-nuts 18:10 < ubuntufreak> cw: Is it enough if i just add the variables mentioned in the golang wesbite in the .bashrc file ? 18:12 < sauerbraten> can someone tell me if there is something like socket in go like there is in python? so that you can create a TCP server and connect to it with a client? 18:14 -!- rlab [~Miranda@201-136-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #go-nuts 18:14 < sauerbraten> btw thanks jhawk28... looks simple but i bet i couldn't have done that :D works well, should be implemented in Go per default 18:16 -!- mbarkhau [~koloss@dslb-094-219-043-014.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:17 < sauerbraten> maybe still interesting: found that by accident: http://bitbucket.org/taruti/go-readline/ 18:18 < cw> ubuntufreak: you need to update PATH ... if you don't know how you should probably google it 18:18 < taruti> that is a clone of http://sigpipe.org/go/readline-go/ by Michael Elkins containing a patch to make it compile on Arch linux 18:18 < cw> im not trying to be a jerk, there is value in understand that and how it works 18:18 -!- gr0gmint [~joebiden@93.167.52.52] has joined #go-nuts 18:18 < ubuntufreak> cw: thanks would do it :) 18:18 < cw> sauerbraten: package net will do that 18:19 < sauerbraten> ok i'll have a look at that 18:20 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:22 < ubuntufreak> cw: got it working now :D 18:23 < cw> cool 18:23 -!- gr0gmint [~joebiden@93.167.52.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:23 -!- visof [~visof@unaffiliated/visof] has joined #go-nuts 18:23 -!- gr0gmint [~joebiden@x1-6-00-1e-2a-85-d6-54.k1043.webspeed.dk] has joined #go-nuts 18:24 < jhawk28> sauerbraten: it would be the TCPConn and the TCPListener from the "net" package 18:25 < sauerbraten> yeah i thought so but thanks :) 18:28 -!- gr0gmint [~joebiden@x1-6-00-1e-2a-85-d6-54.k1043.webspeed.dk] has quit [Client Quit] 18:29 -!- visof_ [~visof@41.238.234.71] has joined #go-nuts 18:31 < sauerbraten> jhawk28: so i use TCPListener for server, accept the call fro mclient with AcceptTCP and then handle the communication with the Conn object? 18:31 -!- visof [~visof@unaffiliated/visof] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:40 < jhawk28> yes, thats what it looks like 18:40 < jhawk28> sauerbraten: you could also use the Accept so that you get a generic Connection 18:41 < sauerbraten> what's the difference? sorry, my english isn't that good i understand maybe about 3/4 of the docs :D 18:43 < jhawk28> not sure, I'm about 1 step ahead of you 18:43 < sauerbraten> :D 18:44 < jhawk28> my guess is that the generic interface doesn't have some of the specific TCP stuff 18:44 < jhawk28> which if you don't need, don't use. Sort of like the using the List interface in Java vs the implementations 18:45 -!- sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:45 -!- sladegen [~nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has joined #go-nuts 18:45 < jhawk28> looking at the code, it looks like you can use the net.Listen 18:46 < jhawk28> and net.Dial 18:48 < sauerbraten> but if i know that i want to use TCP, why should i use generic? 18:48 < jhawk28> usually better to use a higher level interface as a best practice 18:49 < sauerbraten> mhm ok that's a reason :D 18:49 < sauerbraten> ok i'll try doing it with generic 18:56 < sauerbraten> "while True:" in python is "for:" in go, right? 18:57 < jchico> yeah except it's with curly braces {} 18:57 < sauerbraten> yeah of course 18:57 < jchico> hey you put the colon in there :P 18:59 -!- artefon [~thiago@189.107.228.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:59 < sauerbraten> jhawk28: how do i use Conn.Read() ? what to put inside the parentheses? 19:00 < sauerbraten> something like connection.Read(1024) to read 1024 bytes of data 19:00 < sauerbraten> ? 19:14 -!- belkiss [~belkiss@drn13-1-78-235-168-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:14 -!- sioraiocht [~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht] has joined #go-nuts 19:15 -!- ubuntufreak [~ubuntufre@122.164.64.20] has left #go-nuts [] 19:21 -!- g0bl1n [~pr0kter@a213-22-76-1.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:22 -!- Ginto8 [~ginto8@pool-72-82-235-34.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #go-nuts 19:25 -!- lmoura [~lmoura@187.78.130.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:29 < sauerbraten> is there something like break in python in go to get out of a loop? 19:31 < cw> break 19:32 < sauerbraten> what about return? 19:32 < cw> return 19:32 < Ginto8> sauerbraten, please look at the docs before asking simple syntax questions here 19:32 < sauerbraten> oh no return only stops the current run of a loop, right? 19:32 < Ginto8> break,continue and return are fairly consistent across all modern languages 19:33 < cw> return does what return does in c & python 19:33 < Ginto8> sauerbraten, return returns a value from a function 19:33 < cw> return can be use w/o a value if the return 'variables' aren't anonymous 19:34 < sauerbraten> Ginto8: i know but if used in a loop it stops the current run and skips the rest of the loop's body, then goes on with the loop, doesn't it? 19:34 < Namegduf> iNo. 19:34 < Namegduf> *No. 19:34 < sauerbraten> :( 19:34 < Namegduf> That's continue, not return. 19:34 < Namegduf> (Which can't be used outside of a loop) 19:35 < Namegduf> And "break" is like break in C. 19:36 < sauerbraten> but in progs/cat.go it is used in a loop... 19:36 < Namegduf> Yes. 19:36 < Namegduf> To return from the whole function. 19:36 -!- mxweas [~max@c-98-225-102-170.hsd1.az.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Mac has gone to sleep] 19:36 < Namegduf> Because that is what it does. 19:37 < Namegduf> This is similar to how return behaves in every other language. 19:37 < Namegduf> "break" is also similar to how it is in every other language, including C, including Python, and is what you want 19:37 < Namegduf> I realise the idea that return could be like return and break could be like break is confusing, but Go is all about breaking with expectations. 19:38 < sauerbraten> ok i got it now, thanks 19:39 -!- Tiger [~chatzilla@118.126.12.54] has joined #go-nuts 19:40 < Ginto8> like I said, look at the docs first when your question is that simple 19:42 -!- Tiger_ [~chatzilla@118.126.12.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:44 < sauerbraten> one more quetion... how about try - catch in go? I only found recover()... 19:45 < Ginto8> there's panic/recover, but most things that would be handled with exceptions are just handled with multiple return types 19:45 < Ginto8> and one of the returns is an Error type 19:45 < Ginto8> usually an os.Error 19:45 < Ginto8> sometimes other errors 19:46 < Namegduf> sauerbraten: They don't exist, use return values. 19:46 < Namegduf> sauerbraten: panic() and recover() exist but are for different things 19:46 < sauerbraten> ok 19:50 -!- gr0gmint [~joebiden@93.167.52.52] has joined #go-nuts 19:54 < sauerbraten> how do i make a []byte out of a string? 19:54 -!- gr0gmint [~joebiden@93.167.52.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:54 < Namegduf> []byte(stringgoeshere) 19:56 < sauerbraten> oh that's quite easy 19:59 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@d142-058-241-013.wireless.sfu.ca] has joined #go-nuts 19:59 < sauerbraten> what must XXX be in cononn.Read 19:59 < sauerbraten> ahhh moment pls 20:00 < sauerbraten> what must XXX be in conn.Read(XXX); when conn is a net.Conn interface? 20:00 < KirkMcDonald> A []byte, with the buffer to read into. 20:00 < KirkMcDonald> That is, the buffer to write the result into. 20:01 < KirkMcDonald> The length of the buffer will be the maximum length to read from the connection. 20:04 < sauerbraten> ahh ok thanks 20:07 -!- General13372 [~support@71-84-50-230.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has left #go-nuts [] 20:08 -!- visof_ [~visof@41.238.234.71] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08 -!- jchico [~jchico@cpe-98-14-12-209.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:08 < sauerbraten> what is wrong with that? "var message [1024]byte; connection.Read(message);" it says: cannot use message (type [1024]uint8) as type []uint8 in function argument 20:09 < Namegduf> [1024]byte isn't a slice, it's an array. 20:12 -!- jA_cOp [~yakobu@unaffiliated/ja-cop/x-9478493] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:14 < Ginto8> what you can do though is var msg [1024]byte; connection.Read(msg[0:]) 20:14 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@209.52.84.50] has joined #go-nuts 20:20 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:22 < Namegduf> More normal is msg := make([]byte, 1024) 20:22 < Ginto8> yeah 20:22 < Ginto8> actually that is the best method 20:23 < Ginto8> because slicing the array causes the compiler to put it onto the heap 20:23 < Ginto8> so that the gc has control of it 20:25 -!- Tiger_ [~chatzilla@118.126.12.54] has joined #go-nuts 20:25 -!- mxweas [~max@c-98-225-102-170.hsd1.az.comcast.net] has joined #go-nuts 20:27 -!- mxweas [~max@c-98-225-102-170.hsd1.az.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:28 -!- Tiger [~chatzilla@118.126.12.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:29 < sauerbraten> what is wrong with that? "message := []byte(message); connection.Write(message[0:1024]);" 20:30 < Ginto8> o.o 20:30 < Namegduf> Because your message isn't 1024 bytes long? 20:30 < Ginto8> because message doesn't exist yet? 20:30 < Namegduf> Erm, also you're changing the type of message 20:30 < Namegduf> You can't do that. 20:30 < Ginto8> sauerbraten, look in $GOROOT/doc 20:31 < Namegduf> You need to create a new variable to be []byte 20:31 < Ginto8> there are 3 .pdf's 20:31 < Ginto8> read them 20:31 < Ginto8> THEN you can come back and ask questions 20:31 < Namegduf> := only works to create NEW variables. 20:31 < Ginto8> they explain everything you need to know 20:31 < Ginto8> provided you understand general programming, which you have yet to show us =/ 20:31 < Ginto8> still 20:31 < Ginto8> don't ask any more questions till you read those 20:32 < sauerbraten> nah sorry i edited it wrong for irc... it was: "message2 := []byte(message); connection.Write(message2[0:1024]);" while message is a string 20:32 < sauerbraten> i deleted the 2 so it was all message 20:32 < Ginto8> anyway, is anyone here familiar with kate? I can't seem to figure out where to put the go.xml file 20:33 < Ginto8> sauerbraten, the second slicing is redundant and sorta unsafe 20:33 < Ginto8> message2 is already a []byte of the whole message, don't reslice it 20:33 < Ginto8> anyway, you still would REALLY benefit from lookin at those .pdf's 20:34 < sauerbraten> i HAD a look at the first of those PDFs, but since i am not used to C, and these documents nearly only explain the differences between C and go it didin't help me a lot 20:34 < Ginto8> wrong 20:35 < Ginto8> these use C as a baseline example 20:35 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:35 < Ginto8> and explain the entire go language 20:35 < Ginto8> read the pdf's and look at the tutorials on the website 20:35 < Ginto8> ALL of them 20:35 < Ginto8> not necessarily the whole doc 20:36 < Ginto8> but seriously, you should try to learn the language before asking for help with simple problems 20:36 < Ginto8> also, look at the google talk 20:37 < sauerbraten> i do it like: "learning by doing" :P 20:37 < Ginto8> so do I 20:37 < Ginto8> but that's not how you learn the syntax 20:37 < Ginto8> that's how you learn the language concepts 20:37 < Ginto8> two different things 20:38 < sauerbraten> PLUS: if these questions are easy for you, there should be no problem to get them answered here... o.O 20:38 < Ginto8> -_- 20:38 < Ginto8> well then 20:38 < Ginto8> I had hoped I could reason with you 20:38 < Ginto8> RTFM 20:39 < sauerbraten> :D 20:41 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@209.52.84.50] has quit [Quit: rhelmer] 20:41 -!- dju [dju@fsf/member/dju] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 20:44 -!- scarabx [~scarabx@c-76-19-43-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:44 -!- tvw [~tv@e176003157.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 20:45 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@209.52.84.50] has joined #go-nuts 20:47 -!- General1337 [~support@71-84-50-230.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #go-nuts 20:47 < sauerbraten> what is '\n' as byte? sorry if i totally mix up types... 20:48 < Ginto8> \n is the newline character 20:48 -!- slashus2 [~slashus2@74-137-24-74.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #go-nuts 20:48 < Ginto8> '\n' as a byte is '\n' 20:48 < sauerbraten> i just found out, but thanks anyway >.< 20:53 < sauerbraten> can someone tell me why this program always gets a "panic: runtime error: invalid memory address or nil pointer dereference" when executing? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/235948/ 20:53 < sauerbraten> the error is in line 33 20:56 -!- dju [dju@fsf/member/dju] has joined #go-nuts 20:58 -!- dju [dju@fsf/member/dju] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 20:59 -!- marsu [~marsu@ANancy-154-1-32-109.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #go-nuts 20:59 -!- dju [dju@fsf/member/dju] has joined #go-nuts 20:59 -!- rlab [~Miranda@201-136-95-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:01 < Ginto8> well for some reason it's trying to access past the bounds of the allocated slice 21:02 < sauerbraten> and for what reason? :D 21:04 -!- jhawk28 [~jhawk28@72.40.31.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:04 -!- tvw [~tv@e176003157.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:09 -!- lmoura [~lmoura@187.78.130.104] has joined #go-nuts 21:13 -!- rhelmer [~rhelmer@209.52.84.50] has quit [Quit: rhelmer] 21:15 -!- Surma1 [~surma@95-88-90-24-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:18 -!- mbarkhau [~koloss@dslb-094-219-043-014.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #go-nuts 21:19 -!- araujo [~araujo@61.173.116.67] has joined #go-nuts 21:19 -!- araujo [~araujo@61.173.116.67] has quit [Changing host] 21:19 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #go-nuts 21:25 -!- ShadowIce [pyoro@unaffiliated/shadowice-x841044] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:38 -!- b00m_chef [~watr@d142-058-241-013.wireless.sfu.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:42 -!- sauerbraten [~axle@p508CF9A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:44 < plexdev> http://is.gd/dnevF by [Vinu Rajashekhar] in go/src/pkg/net/ -- Corrected a print statement from printing netfd to fd. 21:51 -!- aho [~nya@f051020054.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #go-nuts 21:53 -!- surma [~surma@95-88-90-24-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #go-nuts 21:54 -!- surma [~surma@95-88-90-24-dynip.superkabel.de] has left #go-nuts [] 21:55 -!- lmoura [~lmoura@187.78.130.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:59 -!- tsykoduk [~tsykoduk@2001:470:1f04:671:20d:93ff:fe77:1dc4] has quit [Quit: This is Free Trader Beowulf, calling anyone... 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